http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/

When double digits of Christians support (or don't disavow) Breivik you'll have a point.

Islam isn't the problem, I agree, but the people who adhere to orthodox (Wahhabi Sunni) Islamic principles are.

I was expecting a more credible source (as this is righfully decimated in comments) when making all this double digit claims, not to mention the fact that double digits vary from 10 to 99.

Pew research is very credible... This has been repeated with other polling organizations though.

Even 10% is way too high to be considered acceptable.

Internet comments aren't as reputable as the studies Pew conducts.

The difference is in the concrete evidence. Voodoo rituals/possession is something inherently un-Christian. Therefore groups that practice it aren't Christian.

O RLY?

So I wouldn't be able to find any news stories about Christian exorcism?

Let's hear what an LRA commander has to say on the subject

Lord’s Resistance Army is just the name of the movement, because we are fighting in the name of God. God is the one helping us in the bush. That’s why we created this name, Lord’s Resistance Army. And people always ask us, are we fighting for the Ten Commandments of God. That is true – because the Ten Commandments of God is the constitution that God has given to the people of the world. All people. If you go to the constitution, nobody will accept people who steal, nobody could accept to go and take somebody’s wife, nobody could accept to kill the innocent, or whatever. The Ten Commandments carries all this.

Sounds pretty damn Christian to me....

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/

When double digits of Christians support (or don't disavow) Breivik you'll have a point.

Islam isn't the problem, I agree, but the people who adhere to orthodox (Wahhabi Sunni) Islamic principles are.

I was expecting a more credible source (as this is righfully decimated in comments) when making all this double digit claims, not to mention the fact that double digits vary from 10 to 99.

Pew research is very credible... This has been repeated with other polling organizations though.

Even 10% is way too high to be considered acceptable.

Internet comments aren't as reputable as the studies Pew conducts.

Apart from the fact that having a favourable opinion (without any further explanation of reason or scope out of research) isn't "being die hard fan" as implied. Also 1,000 people per country isn't a meaningful sample size.

Considering there was no massive flock of fighters or recognition of their Caliphate even during "golden" days of ISIS, it isn't credible for me to talk about double digits even as supporting.

O RLY?

So I wouldn't be able to find any news stories about Christian exorcism?

We were talking about possession by the holy spirit (god), and having the possessed command an army. Big leap to correlate that...

Let's hear what an LRA commander has to say on the subject ....

Sounds pretty damn Christian to me....

Not really, he mentioned one aspect of a religion... Did you know that the LRA also prays/bows towards Mecca? Sounds like a Muslim cult to me, case closed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Military_history_of_Africa/Selected_article/4

My point is, the LRA's a cult... Not sure how they're grouped in with Christians because they're clearly a mix of Christianity/Voodoo/Islam, and endorsed by none of them.

Considering there was no massive flock of fighters or recognition of their Caliphate even during "golden" days of ISIS, it isn't credible for me to talk about double digits even as supporting.

They enjoy quite a few foreign fighters. 30,000+ at a conservative estimate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_activity_of_ISIL#Foreign_fighters_in_Iraq_and_Syria

That's 1/4 the size of the Syrian active army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Considering there was no massive flock of fighters or recognition of their Caliphate even during "golden" days of ISIS, it isn't credible for me to talk about double digits even as supporting.

They enjoy quite a few foreign fighters. 30,000+ at a conservative estimate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_activity_of_ISIL#Foreign_fighters_in_Iraq_and_Syria


That's 1/4 the size of the Syrian active army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Which is a ridiculously low amount considering number of so called "supportives" in tens of millions, actually most of them are already jihadists that "served" at Russia , Afghanistan or so hence Russia is in 3rd place.

And when you look at numbers from Europe, you realize how competent Europeans are in harbouring these extremists in the name of "democracy, respect to religion, whatever" because it wasn't an issue until they have been hit.

My point is, the LRA's a cult... Not sure how they're grouped in with Christians because they're clearly a mix of Christianity/Voodoo/Islam, and endorsed by none of them.

You really need to go back and read up on Christian Schisms, Protestants, and Reformations. The various branches Christianity All embrace and use elements from other religions. Familiar with Yule by any chance?

My point is, the LRA's a cult... Not sure how they're grouped in with Christians because they're clearly a mix of Christianity/Voodoo/Islam, and endorsed by none of them.

You really need to go back and read up on Christian Schisms, Protestants, and Reformations. The various branches Christianity All embrace and use elements from other religions. Familiar with Yule by any chance?

I'm aware of that, but it's a false equivalency, the LRA is extremely far out there, is not endorsed by any church in the world, and has very low support from the region (With them changing to a more secular platform in the past few years to try and gain more support).

I'm pretty sure I make the distinction in saying that Wahhabi Sunnis are the problem, notice how I never mention Shiite/Alawite/Sufi Muslims? Doing so would be a false equivalency because they're typically not the problem, and shouldn't be grouped with Wahhabi Sunnis.

My point is, the LRA's a cult... Not sure how they're grouped in with Christians because they're clearly a mix of Christianity/Voodoo/Islam, and endorsed by none of them.

You really need to go back and read up on Christian Schisms, Protestants, and Reformations. The various branches Christianity All embrace and use elements from other religions. Familiar with Yule by any chance?

What makes the LRA Christian rather than Muslim? Syncretism is a complicated thing to argue over.

It's also worth noting that Christians who do these killings enjoy virtually no support from the local populations, unlike Muslim attackers who can have double digit support in the region.

It's also worth noting that double-digit support for terrorists are in large part because they don't want reprisals against them or their family. Especially if the government is backing said terrorists for the sake of border/societal stability or because they are treating the terrorists like a black ops unit. It's less often because people truly believe in murdering people because they are slighted.

Frankly, their motivations as to why they support terrorist groups don't matter to me in the slightest.

It's also worth noting that Christians who do these killings enjoy virtually no support from the local populations, unlike Muslim attackers who can have double digit support in the region.

It's also worth noting that double-digit support for terrorists are in large part because they don't want reprisals against them or their family. Especially if the government is backing said terrorists for the sake of border/societal stability or because they are treating the terrorists like a black ops unit. It's less often because people truly believe in murdering people because they are slighted.

Frankly, their motivations as to why they support terrorist groups don't matter to me in the slightest.

So you just referenced a poll/stats that mean nothing basically. Seeing that most of those people were probably coerced into saying, 'yes, i support them'.

So all these Muslim countries are coerced into saying they support them? Is it because the hardline Muslims in the area support them, and demand others follow their ideology threatening repercussions if that's not followed?

That insinuation goes back to the core of the problem, which is Wahhabi Sunni Islam.