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A Collaborative Free and Open-Source OS?

Started by April 06, 2014 07:22 PM
115 comments, last by Tutorial Doctor 10 years, 9 months ago


I would like to kindly point out that none of those you listed -- Windows, Linux, Mac, or myOS are "architectures." All of these are operating systems. Examples of architectures are ARM, Amtel, PowerPC( *cringes* ), x86, and x86-64 (Both AMD64 and Intel 64).Thus, you already lack the most fundamental concepts needed to build J.A.R.V.I.S


I never claimed those to be either. If you read my second paragraph, you will see a lot of mentions that has to do with architecture.
I'm sure he was referring to me.

Oh, yes, sorry, you are probably right.

This is not to discourage you to try to write your own OS, just that the motivation needs to be right. Fact is that no matter how good you are, it will be a lengthy project. If you are going to do this alone (and you also need to learn while doing), it will easily take you more than 10 years to make something that won't even be able to run any (by that time) modern games or applications. It is easy to underestimate a task, thinking it is easier that it really is, and also underestimating your own abilities too. I used to do that in the past too.

So make sure your motivation is right: If you are doing this just because you think it is fun, and/or want to learn, go ahead! If you are doing this because you have some idea that you will be able to make the next big fantastic OS that everyone should use, for your own sake find something else to do that has a lesser scope than this.

Making simple games can be fun.

Good point mouse. I actually had a Beats rep tell me at Beats is not an electronics company, but a fashion company.

However, I think IOS works smoother than Android, and IOS is more secure. I didn't buy apple products for their looks, but because they work. (I have been in several life or Death situations lately and I have used my ipad or ipod to get information quickly with no delay or hiccups or crashes.)

I actually delete apps that I downloaded because they did not perform they way I needed them to in emergencies (design wise and speed wise.)

And I am close to getting rid of these Apple devices if they continue to make more terrible updates. Tim Cook needs to go.

They call me the Tutorial Doctor.

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Gah, anyway, we've derailed this thread way too much..

Is it possible to derail a train wreck?

"The multitudes see death as tragic. If this were true, so then would be birth"

- Pisha, Vampire the Maquerade: Bloodlines


I've been watching a lot of Rupert Sheldrake's talks recently. He's conducted numerous experiments with evidence showing that we are all connected subconsciously somehow, and puts forward the idea that we share the same subconsciousness - a "morphogenic field"- as he calls it - located outside of the spacetime continuum. Dreaming is simply the act of returning to said subconsciousness.

Carl Jung said that over 50 years ago. Slightly different words, but the same concept. Incidentally, Jung is an absolutely AWESOME read for any game designer. The things he wrote about archetypes and the collective unconscious translate over into game imagery very, very naturally. Almost as if the game were a dream, and we are the Creator...

"The multitudes see death as tragic. If this were true, so then would be birth"

- Pisha, Vampire the Maquerade: Bloodlines

Gah, anyway, we've derailed this thread way too much..

Is it possible to derail a train wreck?

One person springs to mind who is capable of accomplishing this feat...

"I would try to find halo source code by bungie best fps engine ever created, u see why call of duty loses speed due to its detail." -- GettingNifty

I would like to kindly point out that none of those you listed -- Windows, Linux, Mac, or myOS are "architectures." All of these are operating systems. Examples of architectures are ARM, Amtel, PowerPC( *cringes* ), x86, and x86-64 (Both AMD64 and Intel 64).Thus, you already lack the most fundamental concepts needed to build J.A.R.V.I.S


I never claimed those to be either. If you read my second paragraph, you will see a lot of mentions that has to do with architecture.
I'm sure he was referring to me.

Oh, yes, sorry, you are probably right.

This is not to discourage you to try to write your own OS, just that the motivation needs to be right. Fact is that no matter how good you are, it will be a lengthy project. If you are going to do this alone (and you also need to learn while doing), it will easily take you more than 10 years to make something that won't even be able to run any (by that time) modern games or applications. It is easy to underestimate a task, thinking it is easier that it really is, and also underestimating your own abilities too. I used to do that in the past too.

So make sure your motivation is right: If you are doing this just because you think it is fun, and/or want to learn, go ahead! If you are doing this because you have some idea that you will be able to make the next big fantastic OS that everyone should use, for your own sake find something else to do that has a lesser scope than this.

Making simple games can be fun.
I'm not demotivated, it's fun to do hard things. Thanks for the advice.

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I've been watching a lot of Rupert Sheldrake's talks recently. He's conducted numerous experiments with evidence showing that we are all connected subconsciously somehow, and puts forward the idea that we share the same subconsciousness - a "morphogenic field"- as he calls it - located outside of the spacetime continuum. Dreaming is simply the act of returning to said subconsciousness.

Saw his Wikipedia bio. Not impressed. And I was being sarcastic :D (the "In all seriousness" should have tipped you off lol).

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Saw his Wikipedia bio. Not impressed. And I was being sarcastic biggrin.png (the "In all seriousness" should have tipped you off lol).

Oh, it did tip me off, but then I decided to double the seriousness because the particular questions you asked, even sarcastically, resonated with me.

Your opinion on the person is irrelevant, the work he's done is very real and can be scientifically replicated.

"I would try to find halo source code by bungie best fps engine ever created, u see why call of duty loses speed due to its detail." -- GettingNifty

I'm not demotivated, it's fun to do hard things. Thanks for the advice.


You know, all joking aside, I'm curious. This idea of an intelligent machine, a "strong" AI, has been the goal of many, many people, and a myriad of top minds are working on projects more or less related to such a goal. And we are, well, where we currently are, making some progress but still with a very long road ahead. Now, you're not saying that you wish to study hard and long the work of others before you, and then join the effort, making a contribution, small or large, as part of this "community". You're saying *I will do it*. You're saying "I'm tired of waiting for them to build it, so I'll build it myself". I'm not judging you, but I do wonder where this over-optimism comes from in people like you (I've met a few). Don't answer me with famous quotes or things like "Einstein succeeded where others failed" because first, that's not true, what Einstein did was amazing work based on the amazing work of others, and second, I'm asking you, not Einstein. I'm just curious: Why do you think that you specifically will give this field a huge jump, larger than all the rest of the great minds which are working on it have done collectively? Myself, I have been said by various people that many times I sell myself rather short, even within the boundaries of my limited potential, so I don't know if that optimism and over-confidence of yours is admireable as an attitude to have, or signifies a loss of touch with reality.

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