Apple 'hit it big' because they are NOT a computer company. They are NOT a consumer electronics company. They are a fashion company.
It just so happens that the 'fashions' they sell involve electronic gadgets and gizmos.

I bet you really believe that, don't you?

Ah well, we were all young and stupid once.

Huh, was that Apple?? I thought if was Beats who came with that statement...

Huh, was that Apple?? I thought if was Beats who came with that statement...

It was.

Apple are very much a computer company. You don't have to like their stuff, but to claim they're "a fashion company" is just ignorant.

Huh, was that Apple?? I thought if was Beats who came with that statement...

It was.

Apple are very much a computer company. You don't have to like their stuff, but to claim they're "a fashion company" is just ignorant.

To claim they're not is just as ignorant.

That's why their stock moves the way it does - not always in step with the rest of the tech industry. There's nothing wrong with being a fashion company - it doesn't make them any less successful (and in fact, has made them more successful than they otherwise would have been). It doesn't mean their technology is any more or less superior - it just means that when people buy Apple, they're buying it (generally - not always) because of the Apple on the box/product, not the tech that's inside it (although if the tech wasn't good, they wouldn't buy it at all).

To claim they're not is just as ignorant.

That's why their stock moves the way it does - not always in step with the rest of the tech industry. There's nothing wrong with being a fashion company - it doesn't make them any less successful (and in fact, has made them more successful than they otherwise would have been). It doesn't mean their technology is any more or less superior - it just means that when people buy Apple, they're buying it (generally - not always) because of the Apple on the box/product, not the tech that's inside it (although if the tech wasn't good, they wouldn't buy it at all).

I'll admit I should have said

to claim they're just "a fashion company" is just ignorant.

I'd argue that Apple are more about design than fashion, but that's splitting hairs.

But you're basically admitting that your previous statement

Apple 'hit it big' because they are NOT a computer company. They are NOT a consumer electronics company.

is patently bollocks.

For years i've been dreaming that someone would design a very cool looking OS, but it never came. Why can't we have something that look nice like we always see in sci-fi flicks, why dont ms engage some very talented artist to desing their UI??? I just dont get it... I would like an operating system designed for power user, not something that constantly get harder to use... Windows XP imo was on the right track, until vista/win7/win8 came along. Guess ill die before seeing this happening.

It's just like games, take fallout for example, the game is somewhat nice out of the box, but add some addons to it and it can get incredibly better. For example, some mods i have add tons of hairs to choose for the character, not just the 10 boring default ones, another one make the faces of the characters much more beautiful, some allow other visual component to be enhanced way better than what the original creators did. I mean, why don't they make the game free for modders for a year, gather the most popular addons, THEN lauch the game? Sorry, i got off topic for a while, but you get the idea...

I would really like an OS designed for people with good knowledge of computers, i guess we had that a while with linux, but now it look just like another os to me.

Why can't we have something that look nice like we always see in sci-fi flicks

Probably because 99% of sci-fi UI:s have horrible usability and only adress small subsets of the problem :)

There are a lot of cool looking ui demos around (the jarvis os one being among them), but there is a long way between demo and anything usable. Sometimes it's not even possible to bridge the gap.

I would really like an OS designed for people with good knowledge of computers, i guess we had that a while with linux, but now it look just like another os to me.

That's probably because most of the major distributions try to look like the other OS:es as much as possible, to attract users...

Linux could easily change its looks dramatically though, if anyone would find it worth their time to do it. (since linux itself doesn't have a "look" at all)

I use Ubuntu everyday...but if you're not happy with it you could help Minix:

I mean, why don't they make the game free for modders for a year, gather the most popular addons, THEN lauch the game?

If they did that, what's the purpose of putting anything in a game? They should just put a name and give it to the "modders". I believe that's what game engines are for.

For years i've been dreaming that someone would design a very cool looking OS, but it never came.

Me too. But it's better to do something about it.

For years i've been dreaming that someone would design a very cool looking OS, but it never came. Why can't we have something that look nice like we always see in sci-fi flicks, why dont ms engage some very talented artist to desing their UI??? I just dont get it... I would like an operating system designed for power user, not something that constantly get harder to use... Windows XP imo was on the right track, until vista/win7/win8 came along. Guess ill die before seeing this happening.

This is pretty ignorant.

First of all, have you looked for some window manager themes?

Here's Win7 transformed to JARVIS:

http://ultimatedesktops.deviantart.com/art/Jarvis-Windows-7-Transformation-Pack-397222303

A simple google search yields a lot of cool results.

Secondly, do you really think the majority of Microsoft's customers want their OS to look like some kind of sci-fi abomination? Of course not! They want a clean, user-friendly looking environment. Anything else would just scare away potential customers.

Thirdly, blaming the OS functionality for its appearance is stupid, because those are two entirely different things.