Why not start a group to fight the warez sites? I''d be interested and would think would be fun to work with others to fight the piracy.

They have no rules so why should we. Together we could report or maybe find a way to shut down servers with illegal software.

It is true that many people in Asia view piracy differently from how we see it in the west. Beleive it or not, I have seen one public speaker at our university advocating piracy as some sort of "taking from the rich and giving to the poor", of course the speaker was from Asia. Another guy wanted to write an essay, arguing that piracy should be legalized! I tried to make them understand the result of their suggestions, but they don''t understand.

Now, how about that group? I''d be willing to put in some work on a web site for the group if the interest is sincere. No money to make but probably a lot of fun hunting bad guys...

If you think it is worth it, mail me at: claes@zitadell.com or just post on the forum.


Why make it simple when you can make it sooo nice and complicated?

I dont know where you are coming from with all this stuff about bugs. Were arent discussing product quality. That has nothing to do with pirating. If the product is so crappy that you cant get it to work and cant get support, why would you want to pirate it anyway. I figure if the product is worth pirating, its worth buying.

Fact: You won''t find ANYBODY on this planet, who didn''t break the copyrights of someone. (How many Commodore C64 Users own more Original Software than illegal Copies?)(LOL)

Ironic-Fact: The same person as an author,developer or musician holds up high his copyright, but as a private, consuming person he doesn''t care about copyrights.

Someone in this thread said that people making over $100,000 a year don''t pirate. That is absolute garbage. I live in a very affluent area and I hear kids at my school bragging all the time about downloading warez and burning games and giving them to friends. Makes me want to tear their heads off, crack their skulls open, and feed on their brains.

Never mind piracy; even very rich people actually blatantly steal things sometimes. Winonna Ryder did. I live in a wealthy neighborhood but know the kids in high school did petty crime sometimes.

I still say paying people to search the web for such cracks is the best solution. Nothing can effectively prevent people from burning CDs without unfair compromises, but that doesn''t hurt sales too much... but if you file lawsuits against people you find online talking about how to crack the game, and if you shut down the sites distributing the cracks, that works. Of course you need money to do this - the console makers do it to prevent people from distributing ROMs for their consoles.

~CGameProgrammer( );

quote: Original post by LordKronos
I dont know where you are coming from with all this stuff about bugs.

Ok, you really don''t want to know that

quote: Original post by LordKronos
Were arent discussing product quality. That has nothing to do with pirating.

You''re absolutely right. Lets leave this for another day.

quote: Original post by LordKronos
If the product is so crappy that you cant get it to work and cant get support, why would you want to pirate it anyway. I figure if the product is worth pirating, its worth buying.

Well lets quit at that

What I find even more disturbing than the Warez sites is how people are selling pirated software on eBay.

A few months ago I was trying to see if anyone had 3DS v3 for sale on eBay for under $500. Well, after a bit of searching and waiting I managed to see auctions on 3DS-4 for $100 and less.

I contact each of the sellers and asked them if the software was pirated. Everyone responded with a yes.

During my searching, I also found a number of internet store fronts selling copies of 3DS-4 for around $100. Each of these informed me that they were duplicates and they were sold under the guise of "Backup''s".

I promptly reported all of these sites to Kinetix and recieved a thank you along with a message stating that only an authorized Kinetix reseller was permitted to sell their products. So in other words, I''ll never legally get 3DS cheap. I guess I''ll just have to save up for it.

Kinetix also informed me that they have a people hired who spend their days searching for pirated versions of their software in order to shut them down. That''s a big cost that us legit people have to pay with higher product prices.

borngamer

http://www.nukepirates.com/

quote: Original post by Johnny_W
Someone in this thread said that people making over $100,000 a year don''t pirate.

Was my sarcasm lost on everyone????????????

Going off on a tangent here, but its kinda on topic...

I dont think that you''ll ever close all the warez sites down, its just not going to happen. The community has evolved off of ftp and http and is now onto application such as filetopia and hotline, and as we all saw from napster, they aren''t easy to shut down.

I propose some new system of preventing piracy, not only of games but for application and music. I''m not entirely sure how it works in consoles but they seem to be pretty effective against preventing priated copied of games. I know you can get a console chipped but not many people are willing to risk their brand new PS2 just to be able to play a few games at a nocked off price. Can''t this system be implemented into PC''s? Maybe built into the motherboard or even the CPU''s? What about the operating system?

None of what I have stated would be able to happen without some form of agreement between companies. If one company builds this feature into their Hardware then they will all have to do it or everyone that wants to pirate software and music will just buy Hardware that allows pirated material. This isn''t the same for Operating Systems as developers would favour the OS that implements this feature over others that don''t, maybe its an area for linux expansion? It could give developers an incentive to write programs for linux and bring some competition to the OS world.

Anyway, it was just a thought... It''d be nice to get some feedback... Do u think it would work?
bangz.