Hi,
You can implement this the same way the jury works!
Whenever an article is submitted online, multiple copies are posted to all the moderators that can vote it on a scale of 1-5. The moderators who are having some free time to review the article may for vote it. In case more than one person is free the vote is the average of the total votes. The article that gets an average vote of 2.50 are placed in the featured section. In case the vote is unanimous and the existing moderators feel that the contributor is someone as talented as nehe, say he gets a vote of 4.00 or above, he can be designate as a new moderator. This way the no. of people controlling the site would increase along with the distribution of labor.
The one and only glitch, gamedev’s server won’t support this. We’ll need something very custom made for this...

cya,
cyanide.


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"You can''t have everything. Where would you put it?"

I think having submissions up for votes among moderators is probably overkill for a system like this, but the way submissions are handled is not really a critical issue, because it is fairly trivial to implement without having to touch the software running the site.

The main issues right now, which really should be dealt with as soon as possible is this:

- Where to host?
- Who to moderate

-- Where to host --
This should really be a decision ultimately taken by whoever moderates the site, see below.

-- Who to moderate --
(Or, rather, who *should* moderate).
I say we should make a decision for a "lead moderator" now, and let whoever that is ask for more moderators as needed.
This whole thing is really a community issue, so I suggest we make it some sort of vote.

I would be glad to help on with the site, and moderate, but I''m way too modest () to actually *vote* for myself.

~Neophyte

- Death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth. -

dont think there''s any doubt about those 2 questions is there?

I am listening... just havent been here for a bit. I think the idea is good, and eventually I would like to have a section for you guys to show off your work, but I''m worried about abuse of a system where you can upload your own software. Virii would be a main concern. As for compiling information about GL, there are already a great number of GL faqs that have all the information already compiled.

Nice to see you back, NeHe. I missed your site...

About these plans here, we are not interested in users uploading software, only source-code. Furthermore, it will be more of a discussion-forum around the submitted code. Both for the general audience (to ask questions of the authors), and for the authors themselves (who may get useful tips on changes and so on).

~Neophyte


- Death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth. -

Sounds like a great idea, although you will have to ask that the forum is not purging messages. I think some of the code you guys have written in this forum is great, and should be posted somewhere for everyone to see. If you do come up with an idea, let me know, I would love to advertise for you, or link directly to the forum.

I vote for having it hosted on gamedev.net if, but only if, we can avoid having an active moderator. I think having a person (or persons) actively evaluating every submission BEFORE it is made public defeats the purpose of a self-actualising article repository.

OK so there are some risks, as Myopic Rhino pointed out:

quote: what if the
information they post is wrong? What if their writing is so bad it's
almost impossible to understand? What if they are using horrible
coding practices that shouldn't be allowed to spread?

But those should be largely held in check by the following methods:

1. Implement "passive" moderators who, as opposed to "active" moderators, only read posts AFTER they have been made public and rate them. If ALL moderators rate a post as unacceptable, then it will be removed from the site and an e-mail sent to the author asking him to correct it. This goes a bit in the direction of Cianide's recent post and will take a lot of work off any one moderators' shoulders, ensuring the site grows faster, albeit with less controlled materials.

1. Every user has to register with a valid e-mail address; his password will be sent to that E-mail (ie.- no anonymous posters!!!). This will make banning from the site a credible punishment tool.

2. A good disclaimer on the front page stating how the forum works and that users should look out for ratings and comments from passive moderators to judge the reliability of posts.

I believe such methods should stop the vast majority of abuses. I also believe free posting should be given a chance before offhandedly deciding the only solution is an active moderator censoring articles.

Just some thoughts to fuel the debate

Edited by - Keermalec on November 9, 2000 9:49:14 AM

here''s my $0.02 Overall I think this is a wonderful idea. I really like the idea of a passive moderator "panel". IFF these guys are smart and can add comments with their votes regarding what''s good,bad,ugly,pretty etc. Coding is an art so it requires some interpretation. I personally think in order to appreciate what''s good you also need to experience what''s bad. If we just take down everything, you''ll lose out on this. This might be an argument for keeping all submissions up ( except the non-serious ). Thoughts ?

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//-- Modelling and animation in every dimension --//

I think Keermalec and fshana are rigth... If the moderators are good programmers, they should point out the errors in the articles. They should say something like: "This algorithm that does this thing is good, but the autor made this common error... It can be corrected like this..." This way, we can all learn what are the errors to watch for... But really awfull articles/tuts should be deleted and the author(s) notified... And this bring us back to the choice of the moderators... It's important that they are really good programmers... it can be hard to see an error in an algorithm... And, the members should also point out errors this way...

Well, any other ideas ?

Guillaume, a.k.a. Yogui

Edited by - Yogui on November 9, 2000 10:55:18 AM

So what was the conclusion? Did everyone run out of steam? In the words of corporate America: "Who''s owning this moving forward?"


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