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what do you think about this idea

Started by May 08, 2003 09:37 PM
162 comments, last by kingpinzs 21 years, 8 months ago
Im sorry, but if anyone can read this post and not make a comment, then theres something wrong with you!!

Its blatently obvious that kingpinzs has absolutly no experience what so ever of game programming, or even programming itself. It also seems that he/she doesnt even know what a computer can actually do now a days. Yeah it can make some pretty damn good things, but even the AI in HalfLife2 (have you seen those E3 videos!?!?) has its limits, and thats saying something.

This post is either
a) A joke that has taken everyone in, and in that respects, all credits to kingpinzs
b) Someone who thinks they actually know what they are talking about, but their next post will start with the line "Can someone tell me how to make a game" or "Whats this AI stand for?"
c) Some time travelling guru from the year 3000, who cant remember where hes from, and is getting the future and now all mixed up!

Oh well. Thats my little bit for this discussion. Hopfully it''ll carry on some more, as this is the first thread ive read all the way through for quite some time...

And dont flame me saying im flaming him (or whatever). There valid points that about half the people on this site are thinking...

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Well people I am well aware of what a computer NOW DAYS. I work at dell as a tec so I am well aware of what they can do. I also know how to program just fine. I also know people are over doing the idea just a little. I am not sure what people are thinking with what I wrote but it is simple. You make your terrain. you put your images in it then you animate it any way you want. Now does every thing need to look like real life. Not in a million years. This is how it is going to happen. It will render the environment in a hyper thread in the P4 then the game play in will be on the other hyper thread. So the P4 is like 2 cpu''s in one cool right. even more all images will be taken care by the video card with 256 mb memory at faster rates then ever 8X agp. Then with 1 gig of ram and 200 gig of hdd space then how are we going to use up all that space. I am working alone on the game and I am sure in the hell not drawing 500,000,000 images my self so I think I will stick with just one million or so. Then we make the AI just a little smarter then ever and have it run through an algorithm. Were then it will look at the time and put the right numbers were they go.
okokok..........
first time u said infinit, then u said a billion, now its a million, next post will go for a thousand........

i think this topic should be locked.

there is much more people flaming each other than any "serious" post

[edited by - panzooka on May 16, 2003 8:51:53 PM]
this is not bad at all just for fun just like games should be.
Ok Lets get on to the bissnes of amking games not making fun of each other. First I think I will break down the componets to mkae it easyer to programe. first make the terain then go from there.
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I''m sorry, but this is the funniest thread I have read in my whole life.

First of all kingpinz, if you were a tech at dell I would think you would have to be able type better than a 10 year old. Your grammer is so poor I don''t believe you even passed 3rd grade.

Show us some code or graphics and we will know how great a developer you are!(lol)
Here is a revised addtion of my Doc

  My very own game design and enginesVer 2.0Game design docFist it will be self expanding all interactive game engine. The games will fully interactive.So depending on were you start, generally what will happen is that the world will start small and expand by it self. You give it the necessary things and expand from that. Ex1Also what you do will stay in the game it just becomes another game object, texture or NPC’s you can have kids and they will grow old and die. Kill any one you want to and marry who you want. Also there will be if you want all the you also will be able to go inside every building you see and interact with every object you find and talk to every one you meet. There also will be back ground music if wanted. You say it is pretty cool but not unique enough. Well how about this. You can type things to the npc’s and they will reply in sound to what ever you type just like the famous Eliza program.You say that is cool but who likes typing.Well if you want to you can train the voice requntion system so you can talk and not type or point and click to interact with npc’s ex4 My reasons for making this game.     I always thought it would be cool to go some were people have use to live and explore. Like a big city with planes and stuff  we can not mess with in real life. What am trying to achieved in computer gaming       Goal (1) Make a fully interactive game.         (2) Make it fully exploitable.         (3) Have plants and animals reproduce and function sort of like in the real world.         (4) Make a fully functional weather engine.         (5) Make Npc’s that function on there own and reproduce and make things them                                                       self’s for your world.            (6) Have a never ending gameGame Options1. You can start a new world or play in a pre maid one. 2. You can make your own character or use an existing one3. Make your own buildings or use ones already made 4. You start at what are you decide or the game decides5. You can die and start over or continue as a new person but in same worldExamples A tree grows and gets seeds. Seeds hit the ground and depending on lots of variables they will grow or not grow and become big trees or die as younglings. There will be weather to change your world and also volcanoes earthquakes and other things. When you see a cup on a table any were you will be able to throw it, drink out of it or throw it or any thing else you want to do with it. You can see all the fishes of the sea or even make a town under the sea.    What a game needs to make it a hit.1.	Playability 2.	Originality 3.	Fun4.	Graphics 5.	Sound6.	Addictive7.	Easy to playFAQ.Questions about the game etc       1. Q. Are other games going to use things from this one?           A. Most likely they will make them 100% interactive environment going any were         doing any thing you want and also self expanding        2. Q. how will you guarantee that it will be FUN?            A. ? That will be detumend on how many people              3. Q. what is the point in playing this when it is just like real life?          A. Think about this you can kill with out getting into real life trouble. You can do                                                          what you want in the game world that you fantasies doing in the real world.             4. Q. Wont it be to complicated doing everything your self            A.  You can use already made world with goals and everything but still do what you want in the infinite universe          5. Q. Does the land expand or grow?             A. Why would that happen? That would be pointless. It will be a set land and see just like the earth.          6. Q how many objects can it take?           A . Well it will have a lot of objects. I am thinking about your world will be            covered in plants animals etc.   No man made things yet. Then as you and your            clan grows more objects there will be. I am thinking about 3 million then it starts                         growing for now to grow new life something else has to die to keep the animals and plants at 3 million. Land and water only count as 2 objects people count as one a peace and trees and there seeds will start at 10 objects leaves count as one object for now.(every thing subject to change as new technologies come out.              7. Q. Are there going to be levels?            A. Yes and no. there will be load points but no jumping to points it will look like                                                                      were you came from is right behind you because it is. So to that aspect                          8. Q. What type of game is it?             A. It will be a mixed rpg, fps and a bunch of others.                 9. Q. Why create the game?             A. To make a game that no one else has ever made. Make a game that want to  play and never get bored and never have to buy another game.         10. Q. Were does the game take place?                A. It takes place in the beginning of time with the earth was new. It will be on a world that is picked by the player. It could be the real world or it could be a world out of any book you have ever read.                  11. Q. What do I control and how many of them?                    A. You control a single person in first or third person view. If you are good enough you can get people to follow you and you can tell them what to do.             12. Q. What is the main focus?                    A. To do what you want. To survive and to be the ruler of your world if that is what your hart desires. To go every were you want with no limitations. Go in every building. Interact with every npc. And interact with every object you come across. To see what it might look like in the beginning of time.               13. Q. What’s Different about this game?                    A.   I am taking a bunch of games and movies and putting them together to get One Big Life Simulation. It will be a game that never ends. You will die but will be born again as your self or as some one else. It will be all up to the player on what happens. 	14. What type of game is it.                   First/third Person 3D Game 	How to make the Game    Feature SetGeneral	           Game engines	      Multiplayer features	    EditorsHuge World	            Weather engine	Noun for now                 Map editor1 player		3D engine 					    Sound Editor3D graphics		Light engine                                                        Image Editor16-bit color 		Key engine                                                Game Editor (only for designers)Plants			Particle engine				                 Player EditorAnimals                      AI engine					      Object Editor		Npc’s                          Sound engine 						 Water                       	Animation engine		Ground 		Physics engine	Sky with clouds								 					Game play    You will start in a garden with a mate (optional). Then you will do the basic stuff gather food, make shelter, get water, and keep away  peratitors and any other bad things.You will need to reproduce to make the world gain it’s population and to get the game to proceed.  Then you grow old and die. Then you have the option to be reborn as your self or as some one else or something else like a monkey or dolphin etc. Then you will see how your previous life affected the world. You will continue the game there will be more challenges and more things to accomplish as the game goes on. If you become some one you don’t like then your goal would be to kill your self some how.In game goals1.	Survive 2.	gather food3.	get water4.	accomplish personal goals set5.	conquer other lands6.	be prosperous7.	To change the future and the way things turn out8.	More to come The Game WorldOverview            It will be a basic round world. For any other sake it will be a flat world that just warps to the other side so it seams that it is round. There will be land water and sky. There will be plants and animals on land and in water. When you reproduce in the game that will make the well needed Npc’s to continue the game.   1)	Fully interactive world. Every single object will be interactive. You will be able to through them break them cut them down burn them or any thing else you can think of.2)	Weather engine. You will have rain, snow hail, storms, and wind. There will be floods, tornadoes, lightning and anything else to do with weather. Will also have northern lights and other affects.3)	Full terrain. You can go any were you want. You can go to the tallest mountain or go to the dippiest part of the sea.  4)	Earth self destruction. You will have volcanoes and earth quakes. Just make sure your not in the arya when one of these places happens. They will act like the real thing.The Physical world   Key locations      The start point which is the garden were every thing begins. The places were there is a source of food & water. Were you will be able to get shelter safe from hazards. The place were there will be a source of metal and other things to make technology and shelter better.Travel        The player walks tell the player can harness the horse then make the buggies then the car and then the hover car or what ever else that can make travel faster also with plains trains and boats with submarines.         The game measurement1 unit is 1 mile. There will be only 15,000 units x 15,000 unitsObjects      1.	10 different trees2.	2 of each average animal3.	rocks4.	sand5.	fire6.	      Weather       There is going to be a weather engine. You will have rain, snow, hail, sleet, wind, lightning, tornadoes, and hurricanes.Day & night / Time	There will be both day and night. Day will last 5 real hours in normal mode and night will last 5 hours. Then there will be the option to slow down time or speed up time. Speeding up time by one unit will take time a mines it by ½ an hour. So a normal day will be only 4 ½ hours real time ect.        Rendering SystemOverview	It will be a 3d first/third person view. Parts of the world will only be loaded at a time like level in other games. The illusion of a horizon will be made like other games. More to come3D rendering  more to comeThe code to be used.Will be programmed in Assembly, c++, Direct X, scripting languageTypes of AI ( Will pick one or two to use)Genetic Programming Fuzzy logicNero networksOther technologies Voice recnishonGames that it will be like Deus ex 1&2 Max payne Fable  Red faction 1&2  Morrow wind  Age of EmpiresOther ideas.   Make it into an OS type program so it runs faster  


Is the blue where you corrected some of the errors in your ''doc''?

Just had to ask

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Thanks for the late night humor, btw
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Original post by Ronixus
Is the blue where you corrected some of the errors in your ''doc''?



If that were the case there would be a whole lot more blue. The blue is there because it is in a code window, and is therefore interpreted as code.
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