As DarkWing says - I got SDL down to less than 80K with UPX.

Hey DarkWing, isnt using UPX a little bit cheeky? I mean decompressing your compressed files @ runtime seems like using more than ur 500k to me ..... but I''ll have a look anyway ...

As for that screenie - looking good - better than I can do anyway!

-wolfman

by Wolfman: "isnt using UPX a little bit cheeky? I mean decompressing your compressed files @ runtime seems like using more than ur 500k to me..."

I asked NeHe and he said it's OK to use it. And size on disk is the only thing that matters. (and how do you think 64k demos work???)

You should never let your fears become the boundaries of your dreams.

[edited by - _DarkWIng_ on January 24, 2003 9:13:20 AM]

I`ve send my entry™ to NeHe and he didn`t reply and shit....
Is there another way to submit stuff ?
I wonder if Yahoo made some stupid mystakes with my attachment...

quiz! is the loading of textures at run-time from web considered when thinking of those 500KB ?

Nope, it isnt but remember some people dont have permanent internet connections (like me) so having to be on the net each time when viewing your demo would be bad - also if people use modems (like me) then downloading 512k worth of one texture each time it runs would be rather binding .....



-wolfman

I agree with Wolfman here. People with no permanent internet connections will hate you. Have you considerd switching to better compressed format (jpeg/djvu) or using zlib(or something simmilar) to (de)compress data at runtime to reduce size? How about creating your own format?

You should never let your fears become the boundaries of your dreams.

If you convert everything to jpg you should be fine - grabbin the textures off the net is sort of a last resort.

yeah, all my textures are jpegs but I have another problem , namely sound ... 1.35 mins of mp3 sampled at 16 khz mono , that being the lowest quality I could let myself use , is nearly 200 kb, that and fmod.dll are together more then 320 kb, that leaves me with nearly nothing for textures & .exe ....

For audio, MIDIs or MODs are a better bet. Though, they''re not as generic as MP3.