or you have some medical/psychological condition that makes it particularly difficult for you...
That's been my guess.
Potentual new concept
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October 14, 2015 10:57 PM
Radiant Verge is a Turn-Based Tactical RPG where your movement determines which abilities you can use.
October 14, 2015 11:10 PM
guys,I'm done.
sorry I took up your time.
I was honestly trying show something.
I appreciate your honest remarks.I just bit off more than I can chew.
You guys have been more than gracious.Thanks again.Bye.
last post.
sorry I took up your time.
I was honestly trying show something.
I appreciate your honest remarks.I just bit off more than I can chew.
You guys have been more than gracious.Thanks again.Bye.
last post.
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October 16, 2015 11:03 PM
This thread reminds me of this:
https://sites.google.com/site/curvesintersection/home
https://sites.google.com/site/curvesintersection/home
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October 20, 2015 10:26 PM
When I first read this post, I ignored it, because I was convinced that this was some kind of troll.
But now, I read some "code" snippets of the OP and I think as well now that he has some new theory
in his head.
I didn't dive deep into all post of the OP yet, but I will do that after I wrote this.
From what I read, it seems to me that the OP is trying to process a philosophic theory into
a predicting AI. Maybe it is an already existing theory from a philosopher and is he able
to send a link to some explaination.
Otherwise I have to idea's. If the mother language of the OP isn't English, maybe
he can say which language is. The GD.net community is big and there probably will be a
programmer around here speaking that same language.
Or we can maybe organise a skype meeting with some programmers and the
OP, maybe it will be easier to explain what he means in words.
October 21, 2015 03:46 PM
My language is English,at least it used to be.
I just never wrote thing out,because I can't spell,and when I try writing I worry more about writing than what I'm trying to say.
I get in a hurry and you see what happens.
Normally I use some drawings to explain details,seeing,charts ect, covers a lot of detail.
A bit map board on the forum would be nice.
When I try to post a layout,it doesn't post right.
Form the replies I figured no one even understood any part of what I was doing,so I thought it was useless to continue.
Look like someone finally has a clue,so if anyone is still interested,I'll slow down and try to explain what I can.
When I try to explain to far ahead I'm trying to explain some abstract logics that I don't quite know how to yet,So a little
explanation is better than a lot.
I will try and do better,but no promises
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The Coder is a function that outputs a relative code,a single value.
Relative meaning it relates symbolically directly to the original string
Let's say that a string is any variable with $ on the end of it.ie; stream$="This is a string variable"
And let's say code is a number returned form a coder routine.ie; code=function coder(stream$).stream$ is the input and code is the output.
Now make the code a string,Code$=str$(code).note str$(code) is a function.
Using Code$,let's create some abstract relative symbols.I say abstract because these are not your typical symbols,and I say relative because we know the code was coded form a stream$,thru the coder.We know the origin,process and final output, and we know the code is only produced by a specific string,such that a specific code symbolizes a specific string.ie;such as define 0.32733 is;
0.32733 is "This is a symbol".
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Symbols:
label.32733.txt
File.32733.dll
picture.32733.bmp
[0.32733]
function0.32733()
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So I say a single characteristic gives relativity to the whole group.
All the symbols relate to Code$ because they each contain the symbol Code$,which
symbolizes the string in the new symbol.
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When I post the page doesn't post the way I wrote it,so here is an attempt to columbize
note the data is just to show place,not actual data.
In the Stat/Weight columns any 1 means active,so add active codes,this is gains.
In the Stat/Weight columns any non 1 means nonactive,so add nonactive codes.this is losses
----Note that Stat or Weight indicates active or nonactive
note that 1 can be a stat or a weight,if the weight is 1 then the line is active.
String$......Code........Stat/Weight.......Stat/Weight........Stat/Weight......Stat/Weight
"here is"___0.1______0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________1__ 1______ 0__0.323
"here at"___0.2______0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________0__ .222___ 0__0.323
"here he"___0.3_____0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________1__ 1______ 0__0.323
"here In"___0.4 _____0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________0__ .222____ 0__0.323
_________total=1.0______sum1_______sum2_________sum3=0.4______sum4
//remember add the codes not the weights//
relation of gain=sum
logic__________________gain1_______gain2____gain3________gain4
relation of loss= total-gain
logic__________________loss1_______loss2___loss3=0.6_____loss4
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Let's summarize this pattern.
Total=gain+loss
loss=Total - gain
gain=Total -loss
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Now let's include a default string and code.
This is about the relationship of, what is said, and what is understood.
Stream$ is said.DefaultString$ is what is understood.
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If subject is about attitude.
ie; DefaultString$ ="She is crazy"----Stream$ ="She is sick"
If subject is about health.
ie; DefaultString$ ="She is ill"----Stream$ ="She is sick"
if a different order, but mean the same, and you need a default order.
Hx=horizontal x:Vx=vertical x
ie; DefaultString$ ="Hx<0 ,Vx>0"----Stream$ ="Vx>0 ,Hx<0"
note the data is just to show place,not actual data.
.
DefaultString$...Code..String$..Code..Stat/Weight..Stat/Weight..Stat/Weight..Stat/Weight
"what is"_______.8__"here is"_0.1___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___1__ 1______ 0__0.323
"here at"_______.9__"here at"_0.2___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___0__ .222___ 0__0.323
"who he"_______.6__"here he" 0.3___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___1__ 1______ 0__0.323
"when In"______.5__"here In" 0.4 ___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___0__ .222___ 0__0.323
___________total=2.8___total=1.0______sum1______sum2___sum3=1.4______sum4
//remember add the default codes not the not the string codes//
relation of gain=sum
logic_______________________________gain1_______gain2____gain3________gain4
relation of loss= total-gain
logic_______________________________loss1_______loss2___loss3=0.6_____loss4
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Now let's include a understood string and code.
understood String$=."she has mental problems" .1232
I want to know what I understand form what you tell me.
String$ is what you tell me."she is sick"
DefaultString$ is a common string."she is crazy"
understood String$ is what I see common string as."she has mental problems"
"she has mental problems".This is what I understand.
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Why do all the coding??::because like ,machine language,it is a background code for logics.
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Let's say you have three systems,conscious ,sub conscious and memory conscious.
The conscious askii as source.
The memory conscious is code as experience.
The sub conscious is askii to code as mixer and compiler.
sub conscious and memory conscious become an automatic back ground operation working with code logics.
Memory either has a code or it doesn't because it can only copy itself to the same place,therefore there are no duplications in memory.
Memory is fast due to code relativity.
Relativity in the sense that "label.32733.txt File.32733.dll picture.32733.bmp [0.32733] function0.32733()" has a default symbol -- default0.32733.def
such that if x$="picture.32733.bmp" then
the default is 0.32733 is
default0.32733.def is
function0.32733(x$)
if memory is faster,then feed back to sub conscious is faster and feed back to conscious is faster.
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This is to show how the Known list is compared to the column Active list.
__________Known...........................................Tank
_____stream$___code..................stream$___code____column1__column2__column3__ect
_____flour______0.645.................chili______.8233______0________0________0______ect
____eggs______0.645.................flour_______0.645_____0________1________0______ect note 1 in a column, is an active ingredient.
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In this case the column Known is Donuts so if the Active list matches the Known list then the column is Donuts.
Or could be the Relative code-the active sum.
___________Known::
.
_________Name$_____code
_________Donuts___0.392361
.
___Stream$____________code__
__flour______________0.653866432
__eggs_______________0.653866434
__salt_______________0.652905741
__butter_____________0.65290573
__vanilla ___________0.652905747
__milk ______________0.652905736
__water _____________0.652905742
__yeast _____________0.652905733
____________________Total___5.225167295
__________________________Relative code=0.392361+5.225167295
Note Relative code could be 0.392361+sum of the active Losses form Total
This relates the name to the list and vise versa and the total.
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By arranging in descending order the lists are in a common format for operations
by operation I mean comparing,locating,sorting,ect.
._________Name$_____code
_________Donuts___0.392361
______Known Descending_______________________________Active Descending
__0.65290573________butter......................................__0.65290573_______butter
__0.652905733_______yeast .....................................__0.652905733_______yeast
__0.652905736_______milk ......................................__0.652905736_______milk
__0.652905741_______salt.......................................__0.652905741_______salt
__0.652905742_______eggs ......................................__0.652905742_______eggs
__0.652905747_______vanilla ...................................__0.652905747_______vanilla
__0.653866432_______flour......................................__0.653866432_______flour
__0.653866434_______eggs.......................................__0.653866434_______eggs
_____________Relative code=0.392361+5.225167295___-__sum=0.392361 or Donuts
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The over all system give us the pattern of how all logic relations can be handled,real logics as well as abstract logics.
By pattern I mean a repeeting accumulating system to handle all logics and relations.For lack of a better term I call this relativity.
first pass....second pass
one dimention logic...more than one dimention logic_____Note part of the logic learning process.
H>0........H>0,V>0
V>0........H>0,z=0,V>0
z=0........z<0,H<0
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October 21, 2015 04:44 PM
The Coder is a function that outputs a relative code,a single value.So far, I can follow. This sounds like "coder" is equivalent to "hash function". Appending $ to a variable to denote a string... is that BASIC notation?
Relative meaning it relates symbolically directly to the original string
Let's say that a string is any variable with $ on the end of it.ie; stream$="This is a string variable"
And let's say code is a number returned form a coder routine.ie; code=function coder(stream$).stream$ is the input and code is the output.
Now make the code a string,Code$=str$(code).note str$(code) is a function.That does not seem to make a lot of sense, but OK. And now...
Using Code$,let's create some abstract relative symbols.I say abstract because these are not your typical symbols,and I say relative because we know the code was coded form a stream$,thru the coder.
Bang. You've lost me.
Abstract means not typical, so... what does it mean? A different number? A number of a different storage size? A number unrelated to the input? Also, what is the point of calculating f(f(stream$) instead of f(stream$)? Yes, they will be different values, but they are nevertheless "the same thing" (only with another computional step). For every possible input, there is only one possible output (unless the coder function is non-deterministic).
[example with some filenames]All members of that group have that one particular number somewhere in them, yes. The question is, however, where does this single value come from? You presumably have a file owned by Isabel, and another file (which she wrote maybe?) and a picture (which shows Isabel?) and hashing a string somehow connects these? Here you have completely lost me.So I say a single characteristic gives relativity to the whole group.
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October 21, 2015 05:08 PM
Basically, I think what he's proposing is hashing every data point/type of object (or property?) and constructing the hashes so that hashes with more parts are equal to the sum of the hashes that make up the larger part, for the purpose of comparing their similarities at some point.
I think the strings he mentions are simply because he isn't a programmer, so they'd have no relevalnce.
I think this implimentation has been done in some form for google's game playing AI, as I mentioned before.
The flaw with his implimentation is that a number has no record of how to break it down into its base parts, which is why google uses big data solutions to build records instead.
OP: Is this what you're trying to explain?
“We can’t really talk about deep learning without talking about data. There’s really two kinds of data: data that’s recorded from the physical world, and then there’s data that humans produce [e.g., meta data, tagging via data entry, transcriptions, written words, etc.]. Now we’re getting to a world where we can take measurements of the physical world and turn that into symbols that we can search and sort.”
https://www.vlab.org/2014/09/28/deep-learning-intelligence-from-big-data/
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October 21, 2015 05:18 PM
So far, I can follow. This sounds like "coder" is equivalent to "hash function". Appending $ to a variable to denote a string... is that BASIC notation?
Yes, it is. The last BASIC I used to have that notation was QBASIC, I think. Modern BASIC dialects don't have this for anything other than compatibility reasons with older dialects.
October 21, 2015 05:52 PM
Will if I draw an apple,and say 1 apple is equivalent to 50 cars on a chart.
Then you know 1 apples is 50 cars,on the chart.
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Now if the coder only outputs .023433 if "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived." then
you know .023433 is "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived."
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A logic relative created symbol is like this.
I said .023433.txt //the symbol,not drawn but written
which you see as "I said John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived." then
you know .023433 is "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived.txt"
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or
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He said .023433.txt //the symbol ,not drawn but written
which you see as "He said John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived." then
you know .023433 is "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived.txt"
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This is two logics with the same statement.
Thus you can relate them by the statement.ie;The symbols with the statement--.023433
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Now remember the symbol statement "I said .023433.txt" can also be run thru the coder.ie 0.7344 is"I said .023433.txt"
Each code is logically unique.
Just as *.txt is not *.dll.
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