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You meet a cute girl, but then you meet her cuter sister. What do you do?

Started by September 08, 2013 09:36 PM
36 comments, last by capn_midnight 11 years, 1 month ago

Or, you know, they just happen to be blessed with a 150 IQ, and soak up knowledge like a sponge.

Intelligence is everybit as accidental as looks. The more important question is what you do with either one...

I think the same (in D&D terms, intelligence != widsom tongue.png). At the end of the day you're just choosing someone by some particular genetic traits. Which is as shallow as it gets.


no real luck with females either, I suspect it is sort of the same thing as with HR people.

Perhaps if you stop thinking of them as "females"?

Or, you know, they just happen to be blessed with a 150 IQ, and soak up knowledge like a sponge.

Intelligence is everybit as accidental as looks. The more important question is what you do with either one...

I think the same (in D&D terms, intelligence != widsom tongue.png). At the end of the day you're just choosing someone by some particular genetic traits. Which is as shallow as it gets.

How is that any more shallow that music or books or personality? All of which are pretty much environmental and/or genetic? Or picking friends based on fashion sense? I just don't buy this line of argument. I guess I'm just too "lol who believes in free will?" to act like there is some "deep" reason to make relationship decisions. All the stuff people decide based on is equally shallow.

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Or, you know, they just happen to be blessed with a 150 IQ, and soak up knowledge like a sponge.

Intelligence is everybit as accidental as looks. The more important question is what you do with either one...

I think the same (in D&D terms, intelligence != widsom tongue.png). At the end of the day you're just choosing someone by some particular genetic traits. Which is as shallow as it gets.


no real luck with females either, I suspect it is sort of the same thing as with HR people.

Perhaps if you stop thinking of them as "females"?

they are female though, I am male.

each type of person looks for a compatible person of the opposite gender (usually), or to find someone who best serves their interests.

ex, as a male I would be looking for someone who is a female, and generally falls within "reasonable limits" in terms of personal and practical compatibility.

like, basically, needed is the ability to get along, presumably have some common interests, (basically) compatible moral beliefs, ... as well as things like probably at least one of us would need a source of income, ...

granted, presumably each person presumably needs things to offer to make them valuable, but which exact things they are will not always be the same.

not having a whole lot to offer though doesn't really help matters (as in, in most regards, I am probably fairly useless).

the drawback of being useless though is being alone, potentially indefinitely.

likewise, HR people probably see it similarly, hence no replies for jobs.

like, to the great question which holds society together, "what's in it for me?".

if a person can't give a good answer, then there is no deal, and said person is passed over and ignored.

like, each person having value to others in the sense that they have the ability to give the other person what they want out of the situation, and likewise will try to get what they want out of the other person, ...

then people basically just go along trying to stay "ahead of the curve" so as to not be forsaken by those around them, ...

though in a way this seems like a sad way to see things, it seems to match fairly well with observations and predictions.

granted, even as such, people will generally stick within the confines of social conventions (and sometimes also moral conventions, but this is hit and miss, and people often get into big arguments over this topic, *1).

*1: usually this aligns with whatever is "the right thing", which tends to be one of:

causing the most benefit for the most people;

minimizing the amount of societal harm due to a given type of behavior;

avoiding needlessly self-destructive behavior (*2).

*2: while it seems like self-destructive behavior is solely harmful to the individual, typically it will also have an adverse effect on those around them, and indirectly this type of behavior will harm society as a whole.

while not wanting to argue specifics here (sadly, not everyone agrees on these matters, and trying to state my views here would likely just create needless controversy), it would seem to be the case that these things exist, and are more-or-less universally binding (and largely independent of the personal opinions of those involved).

though, not exactly the same, similar also seems to apply to things like traditions and holidays and similar as well (they are binding de-facto).

like, a person may seemingly be subjugated to them, but ultimately they, and society as a whole, benefits by their faithful observance.

(well, among other controversial things I could say on all this...).

or such...

Or, you know, they just happen to be blessed with a 150 IQ, and soak up knowledge like a sponge.

Intelligence is everybit as accidental as looks. The more important question is what you do with either one...

I think the same (in D&D terms, intelligence != widsom tongue.png). At the end of the day you're just choosing someone by some particular genetic traits. Which is as shallow as it gets.

How is that any more shallow that music or books or personality? All of which are pretty much environmental and/or genetic? Or picking friends based on fashion sense? I just don't buy this line of argument. I guess I'm just too "lol who believes in free will?" to act like there is some "deep" reason to make relationship decisions. All the stuff people decide based on is equally shallow.

I guess the point we are all making is that one should be with someone they enjoy being with regardless of how much money they have or how good looking they are. I guess before you know someone you can only judge based on generic indicators.


I guess the point we are all making is that one should be with someone they enjoy being with regardless of how much money they have or how good looking they are. I guess before you know someone you can only judge based on generic indicators.

Aye. Don't date someone just because they are smart, good looking or rich.

There are plenty of people in this world who are all three of the above, and still may not be a good match for you.

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I guess the point we are all making is that one should be with someone they enjoy being with regardless of how much money they have or how good looking they are. I guess before you know someone you can only judge based on generic indicators.

Aye. Don't date someone just because they are smart, good looking or rich.

There are plenty of people in this world who are all three of the above, and still may not be a good match for you.

agreed...

even if the person seemingly has everything, there may still be things which just don't work.

like, critical differences in lifestyle or beliefs or attitudes or whatever else.

getting involved with someone who is incompatible in some critical or fundamental way is not likely to turn out well.

like, hypothetically, say one person is fairly conventional, and the other has a fairly strong "I do what I want" attitude.

even if initially there is a lot of romantic interest/passion/..., things will still likely fall apart after both parties start trying to want the relationship to be under *their* terms, like say, the conventional person wanting the other person to be committed and faithful, and the other person just being like "hey! don't be all up in my grill! who are you to tell me what I can and can't do?!".

likewise, you don't want pairings where the people just end up fighting about each-others political or religious beliefs or similar, ...

even within a single group (such as within a single religion, ...) there can still be a variety of possible sub-views and interpretations, and people can still get into arguments over them, and take these sorts of arguments very personally (like, each taking the others' views as a personal offense, rather than a disagreement over what is the case).

then, sometimes, a person can create controversy over how they believe something, like say, one person believing a certain way due to seeing it as an absolute, and another as a collection of weighted probabilities (and betting on what seems to be the most-likely-correct worldview), ...

and, some other people might just be going under some type of intuitive/emotional "feeling in my heart" type thing, or see factual reality as irrelevant, or ...

but, yeah, at least if things sort of match up between the people, things are presumably less likely to turn out badly.

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Or, you know, they just happen to be blessed with a 150 IQ, and soak up knowledge like a sponge.

Intelligence is everybit as accidental as looks. The more important question is what you do with either one...

I think the same (in D&D terms, intelligence != widsom tongue.png). At the end of the day you're just choosing someone by some particular genetic traits. Which is as shallow as it gets.

How is that any more shallow that music or books or personality? All of which are pretty much environmental and/or genetic? Or picking friends based on fashion sense? I just don't buy this line of argument. I guess I'm just too "lol who believes in free will?" to act like there is some "deep" reason to make relationship decisions. All the stuff people decide based on is equally shallow.

I guess the point we are all making is that one should be with someone they enjoy being with regardless of how much money they have or how good looking they are. I guess before you know someone you can only judge based on generic indicators.

I was talking about intelligence but you are talking about money or appearance. However, sometimes money or intelligence or attractiveness is an important screening trait. Not all people with it are good for you,it's necessary but not sufficient.

Certain kinds of people just have an easier time in their relationship not having to handle a large imbalance of certain traits. Its not shallow, its quite practical. Obviously you probably have to LIKE the person you are in a relationship with. But a really nice person who isn't very smart can cause just as many problems as a mean smart person if you are smart.

Also they made a comment about genetic traits, but most traits are partly genetic and partly environmental, which makes them EQUALLY shallow. Like personality, the archetypical non shallow reason for liking someone.

You could really mess with their heads and bang their dad.

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