Hello to anyone who has the skill to help me on my programming skills using Borland C++ version 5.0 I have already posted a message about this but the info people have given me isn't informative to say the least. All people say is to go to CPROGRAMMING.COM and then my troubles are gone, WRONG!!, I downloaded the tutorials but they are a bit difficult to understand. PLEASE if you have been in my place and are a GOOD programmer help me out here. What I need are some GOOD websites and GOOD advice to get started, even a reccomendation on a good program that is out in the stores and is good for begineers to create games will help. P.S Don't recommend books because I don't won't to go to the hassle of buying it, it is much easier on computer. PPS Thanks to any replies I get, it is much appreciated Edited by - Stephen Lewington on 12/14/00 6:59:03 PM

for one thing. you're not going to be able to create a game over night. I don't care how simple the game is. it will take a little longer on your first game, so don't get too antsy. Buy, or download, a book on whatever language you want to learn, I personally would stay in the range of VB, C/C++, or Delphi. Seeing as these three are the current standard. I personally would recomend C++ since it's very flexible and easy to manipulate. as for games learn DirectX or OpenGL eventually. They will seem impossible at first glance, but actually turn out to be very simple once you have a good understanding of the language. that's my two cents.

JoeMont001@aol.com www.polarisoft.n3.net

Edited by - Julio on December 14, 2000 8:23:03 PM

Well, one of the easiest program that I''ve found to create quick animations and games ( I use it to create Demos... ) is Director 7.0

I use it when I want to create a short demo to see how my game will look.

Also, you can get help on www.flipcode.com or you might want to do a search for help in one of the search engines.

Hope this helps...


Cyberdrek
Headhunter Soft
DLC Multimedia

YOU HAVE TO BUY BOOKS TO LEARN! i would buy c++ in 10 minutes to see if you like the language. then for more information buy something like c++ in 21 days or c++ unleashed. then start with direct x by buying something like windows game programming guru. YOU HAVE TO BUY BOOKS!!! internet tutorials dont cut it

for c++

books for c++
Beginners books
(not in any order)
Thinking in C++ by Bruce Eckel can download a copy www.bruceeckel.com
C++ primer plus by Prata
C++ Primer by Lippman & Lajoie
C++Primer Answer Book by Tondo & Leung
C++:How to Program Deitel and Deitel
Essential C++ by Lippman
(sort of condensed version of the primer -200pages instead of 1200)
Schuams outlines:Fundamentals of computing with C++ by Hubbard
Accelerated C++ by Koenig & Moo
Teach yourself c++ in 21 days by Jesse Liberty
Who''s Afraid of C++ by Steve Heller www.steveheller.com


advanced
The C++ Standard Library by Josuttis
Execptional C++ by Herb Sutter
C++ Gems by Lippman
Effective C++ cd by Scott Meyers


Reference books
The C++ Standard Library by Josuttis
The c++ Programming Language by Stroustrup
The c++ faqs by Cline,Lomow and Girou

these sort of apply for any language or api
faqs avalable at www.faqs.org and many other locations
for good info on opengl www.opengl.org

get a copy of the red and blue books
http://ask.ii.uib.no/ebt-bin/nph-dweb/dynaweb/SGI_Developer/OpenGL_PG/
http://heron.cc.ukans.edu/ebt-bin/nph-dweb/dynaweb/SGI_Developer/OpenGL_RM/@
Generic__BookView;cd=7;td=6

http://nehe.gamedev.net/ best opengl tutorials around



1. read the faqs. they give pointers to books, compilers(free), and web
tutorials.
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/C-faq/learn/ alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html comp.lang.c
http://marshall-cline.home.att.net/cpp-faq-lite/ comp.lang.c++
http://members.xoom.com/jshiva/welcome.txt

http://www.geocities.com/alxx9672/learnc.html al''s c and c++ links page

2.get a compiler(no need to buy one see faqs for the links)

free compilers for windows mac and linux

for windows

borland c++ (also handles c)
www.borland.com

ports of g++/gcc for windows

http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/software/gnu-win32/index.html
http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/software/gnu-win32/gcc.html
http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/software/gnu-win32/ide-and-gui.html

djgpp www.delorie.com port for dos 32 bit runs under win9x

mingw
www.mingw.org
http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/software/gnu-win32/gcc.html

gcc with a real nice editor .download. 2.7Mb
http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/software/gcc.exe
more info here
http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/software/gnu-win32/ide-and-gui.html

devcpp www.bloodshed.net
has an ide/editor(uses mingw with ide on top)

cygwin http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
port of gcc/g++ , bash shell and gnu utilities to windows
allows compilation of linux programs so they can run under windows

free compilers for mac
there are free development tools available for macs
depends on what os version are using.

http://developer.apple.com/membership/macosx.html
or
http://developer.apple.com/tools/mpw-tools/ free downloadable compiler
http://developer.apple.com/tools/mpw-tools/compilers/index.html

for linux
gcc (gnu compiler collection) (www.gnu.org) should either have been
installed automatically or is at least available on your installation discs.
compiler for c and c++(and assembler depending on linux distribution).
additional libraries available to give java, fortran, pascal and other
languages.
there are free ide available depending on the desktop your using

for other operating systems read your help docs or contact the vendor
if information is available in the faqs

3. get a couple of good books. at least 1 beginners book and a reference
book.work thru the books and the problems they give you.
see links in faq for book reviews or links to reviews from my web site.
also reviews on www.accu.org


4.write programs

5. write more programs

for c++

web tutorial links, books, etc
http://www.kfa-juelich.de/zam/cxx/extern.html under learning c++ section

free downloadable book(2 vols)
Thinking in c++ by Bruce Eckel http://www.bruceeckel.com

also www.steveheller.com online books

good info here
http://www.comeaucomputing.com/techtalk

Also try the world lecture hall do a search for c or c++
beginners courses or intro to computer science or programming 101
http://www.utexas.edu/world/lecture/


for java

To begin programming in java

Go to Sun developer Conection and join up(its free)

Then go to the page http://java.sun.com/jdk/ download copies of the jdk(java development kit) (for whatever platform/os your using)

Then a copy of the jdk docs then the sun tutorials or a downloadable copy of the tutorial here

Information docs
If you don''t want to download this much stuff could order a copy of sun''s java jump start edition cd. It has the jdk''s for windows and solaris, books in html format, sample code, tips, the sun tutorials,additional API''s etc.It isn''t too expensive and the books are quite handy. here



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Free Java book - Thinking in Java by Bruce Eckel


Sun java books


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

IDEs(integrated development enviroment - editor + compiler)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


shareware netbeans/forte(was netbeans).free from sun.java based so runs on everything(AFAIK) Forte


kawa shareware for windows - ide and editor requires the sun jdk to be installed kawa


borland foundation editions free Borland JBuilder 3 for windows or linux JBuilder


visual age for java trial edition IBM visual age java for windows(100Mb) or linux(33Mb) tryout (max of 500 classes o/p) visual age for java trial edition


bluej java ide/teaching tool. allows uml representations for classes


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FAQS, docs and other info


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Sun java tutorial


Sun java books


Sun programmer docs


www.gamealan.com lots of java info and examples


www.jars.com/listing-Java_science.html


Java Q&A


Free online java books in html


Java Programming tutorials


Glossarys from Canadian Mind Products - scroll down to link to Java glossary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Before asking a question on a newsgroup, please check that it hasn''t been asked before.Doing this can save you and other people time, instead of waiting for someone to give an answer or having to answer commonly asked questions. www.Deja.com archive newsgroup postings and call them disscusion forums. You can search their forums from these links


Standard search
Power Search


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Java Newsgroups


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Off-topic posts


''How to get help via usenet news''


news://comp.lang.java.3d


news://comp.lang.java.beans


news://comp.lang.java.gui


news://comp.lang.java.help


news://comp.lang.java.programmer


news://comp.lang.java.security


news://comp.lang.java.softwaretools


news://borland.public.java


news://borland.public.java.api


news://borland.public.java.language


news://borland.public.java.swing


news://borland.public.java.javabeans


news://borland.public.java.javabeans.using


news://comp.compilers.tools.javacc


Alex

wow that musta taken awhile to type. Anywho, yes, books really help alot, but they cost anywhere from 30 - 60 dollars. I''m only 15 so there''s no way i can buy a bunch of books. SO, just go to www.itknowledge.com or www.informit.com and read some good C++ books FOR FREE!

ive been to those sites and i dont care for the books there when i was learning/beginning c/c++. you can buy c++ in10 min for 14$ and c++ in 21 days for 24 and windows game programming for dummies for 24$.

quote: Original post by pizzaman

ive been to those sites and i dont care for the books there when i was learning/beginning c/c++. you can buy c++ in10 min for 14$ and c++ in 21 days for 24 and windows game programming for dummies for 24$.

Yeah and if you add that up you can buy a decent C++ book that you can grow with or better yet, a book that will show you how to design software in a more robust way. In any event, there are plenty of things on the internet to see if it warrants you spending a single dollar on C++ till you determine your interested.

One good way is to download editors for different games and change things in them, since then you will get an understanding of how a game is built and how they work..

Regards

Daniel

I am also a beginner and would like to thank the anonymous poster for that excellent list of books.