quote: Original post by Anonymous Poster
christian elements ...

you are the follower of some guy that hears voices in his and wants to murder all the people that don''t believe in his religion. So you go around murdering non believers. Sounds christian enough.

You''re thinking of Islam.

quote: Original post by Anonymous Poster

christian elements ...

you are the follower of some guy that hears voices in his and wants to murder all the people that don''t believe in his religion. So you go around murdering non believers. Sounds christian enough.

If you''re going to post flamebait at least have the courage to do it under your own name (And yes, I know who you are).

Let''s keep this on topic -- this isn''t the place for a religious flamewar.

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quote: Original post by Useless Hacker

quote: Original post by Anonymous Poster
christian elements ...

you are the follower of some guy that hears voices in his and wants to murder all the people that don''t believe in his religion. So you go around murdering non believers. Sounds christian enough.

You''re thinking of Islam.

No, its religious fanaticism. Its a problem for any religion, especially monotheistic, absolutist ones that place humans on a pedestal. If you think there aren''t Christian Fundamentalists murdering people throughout the world, you just aren''t paying attention.

quote: Original post by Anonymous Poster

christian elements ...

you are the follower of some guy that hears voices in his and wants to murder all the people that don't believe in his religion. So you go around murdering non believers. Sounds christian enough.

Thats not freaking funny.

Don't dis other religions if you have not idea what they actualy beleive and do!

Sorry for going off topic but I would like to correct this person.





[edited by - colinisinhere on January 18, 2004 6:41:30 PM]

quote: Original post by Useless Hacker

quote: Original post by Anonymous Poster
christian elements ...

you are the follower of some guy that hears voices in his and wants to murder all the people that don''t believe in his religion. So you go around murdering non believers. Sounds christian enough.

You''re thinking of Islam.

Looks like someone needs a history lesson.
(and no, I''m not him)




Go to war again, blood is freedom''s stain, But don''t you pray for my soul anymore.

quote: Original post by colinisinhere

quote: Original post by Anonymous Poster

christian elements ...

you are the follower of some guy that hears voices in his and wants to murder all the people that don't believe in his religion. So you go around murdering non believers. Sounds christian enough.

Thats not freaking funny.

Don't dis other religions if you have not idea what they actualy beleive and do!

Sorry for going off topic but I would like to correct this person.





[edited by - colinisinhere on January 18, 2004 6:41:30 PM]

Most of the time religion goes against things in society that people depend on, that creates conflict and disbelievers. Don't always assume the people disbelive because of religions practices, it could be the arrogence of the people as well.

On Topic:

As I see it RPG's can have a quality of plot because they revolve around the journey of one person, mmorpgs are more or less plotless compared to rpg's. Also having a christian biased MMORPG is quite hard because the thing that appeals people is the leveling of the characters, without the battles, without the death of something, you have pretty much nothing.


Go to war again, blood is freedom's stain, But don't you pray for my soul anymore.

[edited by - PumpkinPieman on January 18, 2004 7:43:05 PM]

Christian elements don''t have to be "religious". The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S.Lewis have a Christian message, yet there is no "religion" in them. Good against evil, morals and that kind of thing.

(I wonder if I would get "probed" were I to speculate on the likelihood of 23yrold3yrold making a post in this thread sometime soon?)

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quote: Original post by Dave Hunt
That''s true, but many Christians shy away from mainstream RPG''s for their own reasons. There''s a huge population of potential buyers out there.

See overstatement.

quote: Original post by fingh

quote: Many people shy away from Christain media for one reason or another

Because, admittedly, it has mostly been complete crap until the last few years... On the movie front, it seems we have a few respectable pieces coming out finally (Left Behind was quality, some new ones in production now).

No offense, but Left Behind: The Movie was such a crock of pointless shit. No, I''m not talking about the merits of the story, etc; I''m focusing on the quality of the acting and the portrayal. And who was that "lead actor" there was so much hype about? Kirk Cameron (had to look him up). He was pathetically, painfully bad. Vacuous expressions, total lack of ability to emote...

There''s an inherent problem in approaching a game with the objective of furthering a philosophy. Games are activity-based; a simulation might be able to support the kinds of investigations that are the basis of faith and religion, but the quantities themselves (faith and religion) are extremely difficult to represent in any meaningful way in an interactive medium.

Using Christian themes as a backdrop for a game in which the player is to be influenced by the environment - and perhaps make a decision to be congruent with those influences - is possible, but you could have a problem on your hands if the game unnecessarily punishes people who diverge from the Christian approach. Unless, of course, you only intend to market to Christians, in which case knock yourself out.

quote: Original post by Useless Hacker
Christian elements don''t have to be "religious". The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S.Lewis have a Christian message, yet there is no "religion" in them. Good against evil, morals and that kind of thing.

Hell, The Screwtape Letters is frequently cited by secular literary scholars as a superb work. You don''t need to be so oblique to be unoffensive to non-Christians; you merely need to be moderately intelligent, assume your audience is too, and have something approximating actual talent. Tim LaHaye, in my estimation, fails on at least two counts - your pick as to which.

Read the eFilmCritic review for a hilarious take on the merits of Kirk Cameron and Left Behind: The Movie as a whole. It lends credence to the public validation of C.S. Lewis: there is no "guilting" in his works, unlike LaHaye''s.

quote: From the aforementioned review:
But, come on. Left Behind(: The Movie) is the type of self-righteous, manipulative film making that allows the participants to reassert their faith while at the same time condescendingly draw a line in the sand for the rest of us. Give yourself to God before it’s too late. Yes, that means YOU!

quote: (I wonder if I would get "probed" were I to speculate on the likelihood of 23yrold3yrold making a post in this thread sometime soon?)

No.

quote: Original post by Oluseyi

quote: Original post by Dave Hunt
That''s true, but many Christians shy away from mainstream RPG''s for their own reasons. There''s a huge population of potential buyers out there.

See overstatement.

Even the most conservative definition of Christian yields about 35% of Americans. That''s close to 100 million people. I''d say that qualifies as a huge population.