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SteamOS, Steam Machines, & Steam Controller

Started by September 23, 2013 07:28 PM
73 comments, last by SimonForsman 11 years ago

*Sophomoric rage*. Everyone is stupid but me!

Why? Because of the cursing? If I wrote several paragraphs using complex terms, would it be mature? I'm not saying everyone is stupid, I just don't like the way technology have been 'evolving' last years, I just think many things have no utility for me. For example, that 'share' button on the PS4 controller. Seriously? Okay, it's just a button, but couldn't we take the time to press the PS button, for example and go somewhere else to share something? Things nowadays are so easy and quick to do, that people become more and more stupid. The same applies to many games. And websites. And phones. And you name it.

Yes, I'll do that. I like them.

So by your logic the fact that you didn't have to hunt down some wild game with your bare hands and maybe a stone or piece of heavy branch so you could eat makes you a complete and blithering idiot. You likely opened your fridge door, pulled something tasty out, and chowed down. How easy is that?

The "Share" button is a marketing avenue for Sony. If it were buried under some menu then only a fraction of people would use it as compared to being able to just tap it and continue on. A player sharing screen shots and the like is one who is telling their friends what an awesome time they are having in a game, without them having to out right tell them. Many of my friends and contacts on my steam list will be playing games that I really have no idea about because I rarely really talk to them these days. I'm not online often enough to follow who is playing what, and since I'm rarely online I rarely get new messages from people. Very few people I know post content on Steam because A) They have to go a little out of their way to post anything, and B) anyone wanting to view it has to go a little out of their way to see it. As such it becomes hidden away where it is viewed by fewer people, and therefore has less chance to influence anyone.

And there are lots of games that my friends were playing for months before I actually heard anything about it. FTL for example. Love that simple little game, but I was months late in getting into it compared to some of the people I gamed with back in university and didn't hear much about it till a few people in the office were playing it on lunch breaks.

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So by your logic the fact that you didn't have to hunt down some wild game with your bare hands and maybe a stone or piece of heavy branch so you could eat makes you a complete and blithering idiot. You likely opened your fridge door, pulled something tasty out, and chowed down. How easy is that?


The "Share" button is a marketing avenue for Sony. If it were buried under some menu then only a fraction of people would use it as compared to being able to just tap it and continue on. A player sharing screen shots and the like is one who is telling their friends what an awesome time they are having in a game, without them having to out right tell them. Many of my friends and contacts on my steam list will be playing games that I really have no idea about because I rarely really talk to them these days. I'm not online often enough to follow who is playing what, and since I'm rarely online I rarely get new messages from people. Very few people I know post content on Steam because A) They have to go a little out of their way to post anything, and B) anyone wanting to view it has to go a little out of their way to see it. As such it becomes hidden away where it is viewed by fewer people, and therefore has less chance to influence anyone.

And there are lots of games that my friends were playing for months before I actually heard anything about it. FTL for example. Love that simple little game, but I was months late in getting into it compared to some of the people I gamed with back in university and didn't hear much about it till a few people in the office were playing it on lunch breaks.


If the fridge had a button to share what is inside it or what I picked up to eat on Facebook to my 'friends' or if it had a voice command to open when I said "open" or if it told me for how long I've kept something inside, then yes, I'd say that would be F-in stupid.

I understand, but, sharing isn't something you'll do very often, maybe once in a few minutes, so having to use this function buried in some menu wouldn't make much difference. Anyway, it's all about sitting in a comfortable chair/couch and pressing buttons, wouldn't make much difference I think, it's really quick either way, having to go a little out of the way to see something isn't a big problem, you can quickly switch back. Having a share button will save only a few seconds, I think.

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I think that means "click the whole thumb pad inwards", not "touch the centre".

Then that makes it a shitty diagram (at least the controls make a lot more sense now).

Don't pay much attention to "the hedgehog" in my nick, it's just because "Sik" was already taken =/ By the way, Sik is pronounced like seek, not like sick.


Having a share button will save only a few seconds, I think.

It's not about saving a few seconds, but rather about the fact that a huge number of users wouldn't use (or even look for) that function at all if it were in a menu rather than more directly exposed. By providing a dedicated, highly visible and easily accessible button specifically for that function Sony are guaranteeing that practically their entire user-base will be aware that the sharing function is provided, and that the maximum possible number of users might actually use that function as often as possible. Also, it might save a few seconds, and that's something that some people with limited time to play games might value.


if it [a fridge] told me for how long I've kept something inside

Whilst the other ideas were pretty silly, a fridge that kept track of how long items had been stored -- particularly if it could warn you when things are out of date -- would probably be something a lot of people would appreciate. Just because you don't want or need a particular function doesn't mean a lot of other people might not love it, and you're free to continue ignoring such functionality whenever you encounter it!

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That would be friggin' sweet. Maybe if it could check the expiration date on things, and tell you when something expires, now that would be cool. Valve, do fridges instead!

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if it [a fridge] told me for how long I've kept something inside

Whilst the other ideas were pretty silly, a fridge that kept track of how long items had been stored -- particularly if it could warn you when things are out of date -- would probably be something a lot of people would appreciate. Just because you don't want or need a particular function doesn't mean a lot of other people might not love it, and you're free to continue ignoring such functionality whenever you encounter it!

A former classmate has been in the process of building and designing 'smart' fridges for a few years now. Not only will it his current prototype track expiry dates, it also tracks general content. It will email him a list of his usual things that he is low on before he heads home from work, can make suggestions on recipes to try based on what he can actually make, and it even has a small robotic arm that makes random sweeps through the fridge to narrow down spoiled food by detecting gasses given off by rotting fruit and vegetables.

He spends less time and money shopping for groceries, and focuses more on other things in his life than his food.

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It's not about saving a few seconds, but rather about the fact that a huge number of users wouldn't use (or even look for) that function at all if it were in a menu rather than more directly exposed. By providing a dedicated, highly visible and easily accessible button specifically for that function Sony are guaranteeing that practically their entire user-base will be aware that the sharing function is provided, and that the maximum possible number of users might actually use that function as often as possible. Also, it might save a few seconds, and that's something that some people with limited time to play games might value.

Whilst the other ideas were pretty silly, a fridge that kept track of how long items had been stored -- particularly if it could warn you when things are out of date -- would probably be something a lot of people would appreciate. Just because you don't want or need a particular function doesn't mean a lot of other people might not love it, and you're free to continue ignoring such functionality whenever you encounter it!

Yes. That's my point. Now it's even easier to do everything, you don't even need to find this feature for yourself or read it somewhere (manual, box, website?) to figure out! You don't need to 'learn' how to use things today. Also, sharing isn't something everyone will do.

'To need' is a strong verb, I'd not dare using it.

A former classmate has been in the process of building and designing 'smart' fridges for a few years now. Not only will it his current prototype track expiry dates, it also tracks general content. It will email him a list of his usual things that he is low on before he heads home from work, can make suggestions on recipes to try based on what he can actually make, and it even has a small robotic arm that makes random sweeps through the fridge to narrow down spoiled food by detecting gasses given off by rotting fruit and vegetables.

He spends less time and money shopping for groceries, and focuses more on other things in his life than his food.

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Oh. That kind of thing really makes me sad. Okay, it's cool, and it is made by smart people and makes your life 'easier' and all, but... really, smart fridges? What the? In the future, everything will be smart and their users will be more and more stupid and lazy, it looks like. Can't you keep track of expiring dates? Can't you keep track of what you are low on? Can't you try new recipes? Can't you detect rotting fruit/vegetables? The question isn't if you can or can't, of course you can... but maybe you're too busy playing your Call of Duty, pressing Share buttons on your controller, sharing your 1440 no-scope across the map trick shot with your 'friends' to do simple things in life like this. Or to have someone to do it for you. Probably your wife and children will be doing the same or something similar, so they won't have the time.

To focus more on other things in life other than food? What, for example? Work? Games? Internet? TV? Of course, because all that are more important than your food. Many things have been more important that people's food, that's why the food today is what it is and nobody cares.

I think things like this are made for fat-lazy-no-brained-rich-morons.

@Janissary

I admit I haven't actually read your longer rants to people who've pointed out you sound like a jerk with posts like

I think it is simply a piece of crap. But... whatever, most of the Steam users are idiots, so are most of the people who play video games today.

That controller looks like shit. That stupid touch-screen in the middle is just retarded. Just like most of the people who play video games today. Everything now has a fucking touch-screen. Everything now is made for stupid people. At least makes sense.

But whatever you say clearly you're not a fan of Steam for some reason. I find it hard to believe there was a person who is really on the edge of PC gaming that doesn't like Steam. OR at least see why it's so successful and useful to most people without calling everyone else but themselves idiots.

That would be friggin' sweet. Maybe if it could check the expiration date on things, and tell you when something expires, now that would be cool. Valve, do fridges instead!

You mean like an Internet Refrigerator? The idea died out 10 years ago, but Samsung demoed a modern version at CES back in January.

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