I really don't understand why this topic has been posted in gamedev ....
What's the relationship between game developpement and the 'Revelation' ?

We don't care about God stuff here, at least I hope !

Games developers are gods ;-)

He just doesn't want it bad enough for the majority of the human race. Since there are some pretty simple things he could do which would prove his existence to non-believers.

Yea... performing miracles and sacrificing himself/his only son are totally too small. He should have to do something important.

The point isn't to prove his existence. All he wants is to be loved and for us to love. If we decide not to love and suffer his punishment because of it, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

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He just doesn't want it bad enough for the majority of the human race. Since there are some pretty simple things he could do which would prove his existence to non-believers.

Yea... performing miracles and sacrificing himself/his only son are totally too small. He should have to do something important.
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I can't help but to think that it doesn't really count, when he just revived his son after three days. I think a lot of people would gladly sacrifice them selves for three days, if they could.

The point isn't to prove his existence. All he wants is to be loved and for us to love. If we decide not to love and suffer his punishment because of it, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

That's just cruel. I mean like dictator cruel, I'm sure that Kim Jong-il truly "loves" his country, and all its people. And the few who doesn't love him back, apparently got no one to blame but them selves, when they receives his punishment.

I know that the statement above is not the general understanding of Christianity - at least not in Northern Europe. But that statement is just purely cruel and egocentric.

I can't help but to think that it doesn't really count, when he just revived his son after three days. I think a lot of people would gladly sacrifice them selves for three days, if they could.

By crucifixion? It's not exactly an easy way to go.

That's just cruel. I mean like dictator cruel, I'm sure that Kim Jong-il truly "loves" his country, and all its people. And the few who doesn't love him back, apparently got no one to blame but them selves, when they receives his punishment.[/quote]
is it cruel to send murderers and rapists to prison? What about petty thieves? Tax evaders? It's no different than any legal system in the world except it has the benefit of being omniscient and infinitely just.

God is a perfectly righteous being. If we want to live with him we need to become like him. Unfortunately we all have our weaknesses.

Yeah, you'd think he could've done a better job.

Sin makes us unclean and no unclean thing can enter into the presence of God.[/quote]This rule doesn't appear to apply to Satan.

is it cruel to send murderers and rapists to prison? What about petty thieves? Tax evaders? It's no different than any legal system in the world except it has the benefit of being omniscient and infinitely just.

Or people who collect sticks on the wrong day..

is it cruel to send murderers and rapists to prison? What about petty thieves? Tax evaders? It's no different than any legal system in the world except it has the benefit of being omniscient and infinitely just.

It's not cruel to punish those who do mean things to others, but to dictate a thought IS cruel. Free thoughts cannot be compared with the above mentioned actions. If we don't both agree to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, (in this case §2 and §18 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights) then yes you're right.

Yea... performing miracles and sacrificing himself/his only son are totally too small. He should have to do something important.

Erm...yeah. I have never experienced a miracle and never seen a single shred of evidence that Jesus died for our sins, so there is at least one person he is failing. He could do a lot better than that if he really loves me, or is it just that he isn't omnipotent after all?

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[color="#1c2837"]But sending murderers and rapists to heaven while peace activists burn in hell based on a point of belief is OK?

I really don't understand why this topic has been posted in gamedev ....
What's the relationship between game developpement and the 'Revelation' ?

We don't care about God stuff here, at least I hope !

The Lounge is for discussion of anything, game related or not.

Erm...yeah. I have never experienced a miracle and never seen a single shred of evidence that Jesus died for our sins, so there is at least one person he is failing. He could do a lot better than that if he really loves me, or is it just that he isn't omnipotent after all?

It's not his job to make you love him. That's established in genesis. It is our choice. It is God's greatest gift to humanity.

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But sending murderers and rapists to heaven while peace activists burn in hell based on a point of belief is OK?
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Why do you think murderers and rapists go to heaven without repenting in the first place?