Quote:Original post by CodaKiller A guy nick named "Diesel" who is a 30-40 year old man at work punched me in the gut twice after I called him a "fatty" and now I have a bruise... I told my supervisor, she ignored me then I saw the bruise and told her if she didn't report it I was going to call corporate HR. She told some other supervisors and they said "Well it's your fault for calling him a fatty."
This is not the first time something like this happened, same guy also hit me before for absolutely no reason, some guy poured rotten stuff in my water bottle, another guy attacked me because I dropped an envelope from up high and it hit him in the face, he grabbed my shoulder from behind while I was clocking out and started crushing it. Same guy hit me in the head with a box a week or two before while a supervisor was watching...
Gimme their ё-мaйл.I don't belong to russian mafia, but i can send them a couple letters...just for fun[smile] -- Diesel- may be because of laud exaust? Ask him,probably he need an ass silencer? I remember something like that in "The most unuseful inventions" list.
Quote:Original post by d000hg Especially when people hit you when you're not looking!
He got hit after he called the guy fatty (I assume it all happened in the same circumstance)
Quote: You don't take a beginner karate lesson and really gain the ability to win fights.
It's not that much about winning the fights as it is about gaining moral strength. I know I'm not a great fighter but I know if someone wants to beat be he has to put some effort into it. Knowing how to fight/being somewhat fit is a deterrent in itself i.e someone that doesn't work out at all will probably not be able to beat me with his bare hands, something along those lines.
Quote: You don't take a beginner karate lesson and really gain the ability to win fights.
It's not that much about winning the fights as it is about gaining moral strength. I know I'm not a great fighter but I know if someone wants to beat be he has to put some effort into it. Knowing how to fight/being somewhat fit is a deterrent in itself i.e someone that doesn't work out at all will probably not be able to beat me with his bare hands, something along those lines.
But he's not getting into fights and losing them... hitting someone back escalates things much further if you end up brawling in your cubicle.
Quote:Original post by curtmax_0 And no... calling somebody a fatty isn't harassment anywhere in the US (although it could violate some vague employee code).
In any civilised country, workplace bullying/harassment is illegal. Depending on the context of calling someone "a fatty", this could certainly be illegal.
The US doesn't seem to have a blanket law, but some states seem to be passing their own laws, and there is also the "fighting words" precedent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_bullying#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States
I'm aware of fighting words. Calling somebody a fatty isn't going to cut it. Sorry. In addition, even though fighting words might be illegal, it is still illegal to actually fight back (although in defense.. punishments might be reduced... depends on many factors).
Quote:Original post by d000hg I don't see why verbal/emotional/psychological bullying is worse than physical bullying. The former causes wounds which can take much longer to heal.
maybe, but we're all grown ups in the work place and we settle things with our words, like we've been taught to since age 4 or so...
Seriously OP just go above heads till you get results, or go to the police. Don't dick around.
Breaking a moped that may or may not have been yours, posting history here, and now this. Maybe they guy shouldn't have hit you but you obviously have some severe psychological issues that need some professional help. Mouthing off to people is going to get you beat up, its a pretty obvious connection there.
Quote:Original post by LessBread Calling someone names is not justification for them punching you in the stomach twice. Forget about contacting higher ups. You've done that and they don't care enough to intervene. Contact a lawyer about suing the company for hostile work environment. And start looking for a new job while you're at it.
This. If this is happening regularly, you may want to get a small digital recorder and keep it in your pocket recording (check your eavesdropping laws, but most states allow you to record if you are involved in the conversation).
Nothing you say can justify getting punched in the stomach. Yeah, you may be an asshat for calling someone a fatty (I don't know.. I don't know the context), but it doesn't justify physical retaliation. And no... calling somebody a fatty isn't harassment anywhere in the US (although it could violate some vague employee code).
You should start calling the police and filing a report whenever this happens so that there is a record. I've never encountered physical abuse anywhere I've worked, even in places that hire mostly high-schoolers. When I was a manager I would've immediately canned anybody that became physical...
I know Coda a certain 'reputation' here, but you people saying he gets what he deserves are retarded. No words (except rare circumstances of threats that can be realized immediately) can ever legally (or morally) justify physical force, no matter how much of an asshat somebody talking is. I guess according to you guys it'd be okay for me to shoot anyone that insults me?
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"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes." - the Laughing Man
Judging by what I've read here in this thread, I'm largely on board with the "got what you deserved" crowd. The letter of the law doesn't justify people hitting you for being unpleasant company, but workplace douchebaggery is a very real problem. Remember, people have to go to work, and having an obnoxious, offensive, childish co-worker who cannot be ignored waiting for them every day is like a personal slice of hell.
I was in a position like that not too long ago, and I saw the catastrophic effect that one jerk can have on the whole team, especially when he hides behind the aegis of "you can't do anything to me, I'm not breaking any rules" rationalization for his behavior. I had the good fortune to get a different job, but I imagine that many of the other workers there are showing up to work with that jackass today.
It gets to where you start weighing that emotional stress against factors like paying your rent and feeding your family, and it becomes hard to be sure it's worth it.
Are other people getting into these situations? Has anyone else dropped an envelope onto a co-worker and gotten his arm twisted? Has anyone else been struck by Diesel for mouthing off about his weight? I suspect that you're the problem. Find a new job, with a clean slate, and try to conduct yourself civilly at it.
