This all sounds a decent base for a science fiction novel. Did you make all this up?
Or is this a new religion? If so, why make it unnecessary complex?
Either way, I see some similarities to force in star wars. Are the "about 10% of entities choose to graduate to step four through negativity", more powerful than the ones at the "good" side?
Quote: In my own mind, there is no doubt that these things are true, because I'm also able to foretell the future. For example, I can do this:
1. See a future event in one of my dreams. 2. Write that event down on a piece of paper. 3. Observe that event happening either the next day, or even months later.
I'm sure everyone can do this, but that does not make them able to foretell the future. For the 365 dreams I had past year, I'm sure every day happens something which was in one of the dreams.
Quote:Original post by jColton societies rules aren't there for your pleasure. They are there to protect everyone. My cousin was shot when a drug addict held up his store (thankfully he lived.). I really don't think I need to keep reading this topic, because no belief that accepts that is worth anything to me.
I don't believe that society's rules are there for my pleasure, what I'm doing is arguing from the point of view of a meaningless universe. This...
Quote: Well, my point is that if you can find a configuration which offers you a P value which is way greater than what you'd expect to gain from living your life as evolution intended you to - then that should logically be how you ought to live your life, even if that way of living is by society's standards considered completely insane. Right?
...is from the viewpoint of a meaningless universe, which is the general consensus in this thread. Myself, I don't believe that the universe is meaningless. I'm a very benevolent person who believes in higher morals.
What happened to your cousin is obviously bad, and I'm always sad to hear about innocent people getting hurt, but this thread is about philosophy at the scale of the universe. You shouldn't scale this down to the level of taking it personal in any way.
A common argument against a Creator is "why does he allow bad things to happen?". Well, the Law of One answers this. The negative orientation is accepted, but at the same time also incorrect. An entity will eventually need to change polarity to the positive orientation in order to re-merge with the Creator. (How can you merge with something you consider separate from yourself?)
Another thing to note is that while step three mingles the two opposing polarities together, step four has separate planets for the positive and negative entities. If you choose to graduate to step four with a negative polarity, then your life is going to suck badly, to put it mildly, as you have to live in a society with exclusively negative entities. If you choose to graduate to step four with a positive polarity, however, then your life will be wonderful as you join a Utopian society with exclusively positive entities.
Do good things, and good things happen to you, do bad things, and bad things happen to you. Earl has it all figured out a lot better than most people realize.
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Quote:Original post by Ftn This all sounds a decent base for a science fiction novel. Did you make all this up?
No, this is from a philosophy called the Law of One. The entire material which makes up the entire philosophy is available at www.lawofone.info, for free.
Quote:Original post by Ftn Either way, I see some similarities to force in star wars. Are the "about 10% of entities choose to graduate to step four through negativity", more powerful than the ones at the "good" side?
The positive and negative sides are equally powerful. However, the entities of the negative side are essentially constantly babysat by higher administrative forces in order to prevent them from infringing upon the free will of other entities.
Just as side note, I'd like to point out that there is never going to be any form of alien invasion or mass-sighting on Earth. The negative entities manage to sneak through the quarantine in order to perform the occasional abduction, but any form of invasion is ridiculous.
I like to think that Star Wars has an element of truth in it. [wink]
Quote:Original post by Ftn I'm sure everyone can do this, but that does not make them able to foretell the future. For the 365 dreams I had past year, I'm sure every day happens something which was in one of the dreams.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed I'm able to Astral Project. I don't expect you to believe that I can Astral Project just because I say so, though. But if you try to teach yourself techniques for Astral Projection, then you might be able to prove to yourself that these things are indeed real. In my own mind, there is no doubt that these things are true, because I'm also able to foretell the future. For example, I can do this:
1. See a future event in one of my dreams. 2. Write that event down on a piece of paper. 3. Observe that event happening either the next day, or even months later.
This proves to me without a doubt that there is more to this universe than meaningless existence.
I am not going to do the research for you, instead I'll just tell you all those things you experience can be explained as tricks of the mind, the brain is indeed a wonderful thing, and imagination seems limitless.
If you can foretell the future, why haven't you guessed lottery numbers? how ambiguous is the future you have predicted? how many details? you could be subconsciously deducting future events based on present events, for example, you could go to a job interview and have excellent rapport with the interviewer, you dream that you get the job, and the next day they call you to tell you you did, predicting death within a year of a 85+ year old person, is no feat you know.
But in any case, and if you are so sure this is real, I really think you should apply for the James Randi 1 million dollar challenge I vaguely referenced earlier, don't do it for the money, do it to prove us wrong.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed This is step three - planet Earth is a step three classroom. Step four students inhabit planets specifically dedicated to step four lessons. If step four students were able to inhabit the Earth and levitate at will, wouldn't that completely destroy the entire atmosphere of the step three classroom which is about separation and amnesia?
Then what do these beings eat? where do they derive their energy from? There is something contradictory here as well, if everything is one and everything is connected, and separation is not really possible, then how is earth a separate sandbox to achieve connection. Again, if separation is not really possible, we should be able to see and measure signs of this psionic connection.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed Instead of thinking about complexity as a function of the size of the genome, imagine that complexity is linked to that creature's ability to offer spiritual lessons. A human is able to understand more complex topics than an amoeba can, like the topic of, say, moral. A human can rationalize whether an action is moral or not, but an amoeba does nothing but follow its instincts.
Morals are a subjective human construct, and they change a lot, they are not given by a higher power, and have probably evolved out of the importance of mutual codependency that we require for the survival of our species, for example, given how much time and resources it takes to raise an individual of our species, murder is counterproductive for the survival of the species.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed You keep your lessons in the form of a modification to your essence or personality. Your day-to-day consciousness is like the tip of an iceberg sticking up from the sea. You can access the deeper levels of this iceberg with techniques such as past life regression.
You mean:
Quote: Sources of memories
The sources of the memories explained as a result of past lives are most likely narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist, using a process called cryptomnesia. Memories created under hypnosis are indistinguishable from actual memories and can be more vivid than factual memories. The greatest predictor of individuals reporting memories of past lives appears to be their beliefs about the existence in reincarnation - individuals who believe in reincarnation are more likely to report such memories, while skeptics or disbelievers are less so.
Examinations of three cases of apparent past life regression (Bridey Murphy, Jane Evans and an unnamed English woman) revealed memories that were superficially convincing. However, investigation by experts in the languages used and historical periods described revealed flaws in all three patients' recall. The evidence included speech patterns that were "...used by movie makers and writers to convey the flavour of 16th century English speech" rather than actual old English, a date that was inaccurate but was the same as a recognized printing error in historical pamphlets, and a subject that reported historically accurate information from the Roman era that was identical to information found in a 1947 novel set in the same time with a character named Livonia, the same name as a character found in the book. Other details cited are common knowledge and not evidence of the factual nature of the memories; subjects asked to provide historical information that would allow checking provided only vague responses that did not allow for verification, and sometimes were unable to provide critical details that would have been common knowledge (i.e. a subject who was unable to provide the name of the Emperor of Japan during the 1940s despite describing a life of a Japanese fighter pilot during World War II).
Quote:Original post by polymorphed A clean slate allows for a fresh perspective on every lesson. Whenever you begin a new lesson at school, you like to open a fresh page to write notes down on, don't you?
No, in this case a clean slate is a convenient way to force reality into fiction.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed Another planet/classroom.
Which we know nothing about and is entirely hypothetical, just like Russell's Teapot.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed If you were intimately aware of the deeper connection to the universe, how could you ever choose the negative orientation? This veil of forgetfulness and separation creates a very intensive experience which is very efficient at forcing entities quickly into an orientation.
Sorry, I just don't see it.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed Your free will is free to decide. Separation or unity?
You still haven't proved that's the choice to make.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed They're in another classroom. Does mixing 10th graders with 1th graders sound like a good idea to you? Giving a 1th grader the ability to modify its surroundings purely by thought would be like handing a grenade to a monkey.
It is according to you, or aren't animals 2nd graders in the same classroom as us, 3rd graders?
Quote:Original post by polymorphed This million dollar prize was never intended to be awarded to anyone. If someone gets close to winning it, they'll change the rules at the last minute to prevent it from being won. James Randi and his gang of comedians are a joke.
You're thinking of Kent Hovind and this prize of proving evolution right. Actually, I gave you a link before about James Randi's prize, there is a FAQ and they have documentation about every contender, I recently ">saw a video on youtube of a guy proving dowsing for the contest, if it is a joke, I am yet to get the punchline.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed There is no tangible evidence for it being true, but neither is there any tangible evidence for it being not true. This is the whole point of step three - amnesia and uncertainty. You're supposed to interact with your surroundings as a result of your personality, not reasoning.
This is another argument from ignorance, basically you're saying because it cannot be proved either way, it must be so, in reality, you describe enough of your belief for us to expect certain things to be so, UFOs, astral projections, remote viewing, telekinesis, telepathy all that being real and/or manifest in reality, look all of them up in wikipedia (if we can agree it to be fairly objective), and do read the article, try to understand what it says, don't just look for sources of information that reaffirm your perceptions.
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Quote:Original post by Kwizatz So, basically masturbation is the whole purpose of the universe.
If masturbation is an analogy to entertaining one's self with itself, then sure. The stroking process, whereby the actual entertainment is derived, is a bit more complex, though.
Well, I would expect so, as masturbation though satisfying and enjoyable is rather pointless and brings the question of what exactly is the purpose of that purpose.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed There is a purpose to the universe, which is that each entity should be allowed to find its own way back to the Creator using its own free will. This free will allows an entity to choose how it advances spiritually.
Yeah, but why? why go through all the trouble?
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Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Of course!, I wouldn't expect otherwise.
I'm glad that we at least agree on something.
See "making reality fit into fiction"
Quote:Original post by polymorphed Talking about noses are made for glasses - this is exactly what the scientific community are doing to explain near death experiences. Instead of actually studying them, they try to come up with ideas for why they are impossible.
Nice straw man there, in reality the scientific community does acknowledge NDE's, but gives them neurological reasons rather than divine or paranormal, and this is not on a whim, it is based on observable, empirical and measurable evidence, seriously, look up all those things you mention before tossing them around based only on what you've heard about them.
I think I've covered all there is to cover, forgive me if my further replies are short, at this point it just feels like beating a dead horse.
I don't want to go into detail because I could easily fill pages with it, but to start: I think that any speculation about the nature of higher-dimensional beings (higher than us) isn't going to result in anything meaningful because we can't. [wink] We are out of the "set" of beings who are able to do this. Sad but true. :(
Quote:Original post by polymorphed Just as side note, I'd like to point out that there is never going to be any form of alien invasion or mass-sighting on Earth. The negative entities manage to sneak through the quarantine in order to perform the occasional abduction, but any form of invasion is ridiculous.
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I like to think that Star Wars has an element of truth in it. [wink]
I think that too. Every human works is inspired by something that is common to us humans. I think Star Wars mystical element is first and foremost a device to make the movie hypercool, but second it's also about morals, the ground on which civilization evolved: The "light side" Jedi are those who stick to the rules even upon desillusion (Anakin became evil because he lost his illusion towards the moral purity of the Jedi council).
It isn't "way beyond coincedence", but it is an impressing coincidence.
Someone I knew told me that she has layed tarot cards in such a way that indicates some young man in her family would get hurt or killed, and that the same card pattern occured 20 or more times in a row. Next day, her cousin had a nearly fatal motorbike accident. Coincedence? I don't know. But she's an alcoholic, and I don't know wether I should believe that. :/ Anyway, we experience a lot of stuff in our life, and just because our life is mundane we put more meaning into such mystical stuff than it deserves. Coincedences happen. There is a soldier saying that there are no atheists left after an artillery strike. Because survivors of such terror probably can't believe that they are still alive.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz If you can foretell the future, why haven't you guessed lottery numbers? how ambiguous is the future you have predicted? how many details? you could be subconsciously deducting future events based on present events, for example, you could go to a job interview and have excellent rapport with the interviewer, you dream that you get the job, and the next day they call you to tell you you did, predicting death within a year of a 85+ year old person, is no feat you know.
I have no control over what I foretell. I would've foretold lottery numbers a long time ago if I did. [smile]
Here's an example of a prophetic dream I had: I spent my entire night vividly dreaming that I was talking to an entity called Lucifer. I then woke up and started my day by reading some online news. Guess what the entire front page consisted of? A big article about a cat named Lucifer.
Dreams about Lucifer, as well as cats named Lucifer are both pretty uncommon, so I'm sure that there was some form of link here.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Then what do these beings eat? where do they derive their energy from?
In step two and three, the attainment of food is used as a catalyst for spiritual progress. However, food is not a big deal in the higher steps. You do need to eat to nourish the body, but the method of attaining food is easy - you can prepare it by thought.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz There is something contradictory here as well, if everything is one and everything is connected, and separation is not really possible, then how is earth a separate sandbox to achieve connection.
Separation is not possible, but it is possible to create an illusion where this is so. Step three induces this illusion.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Again, if separation is not really possible, we should be able to see and measure signs of this psionic connection.
There is a scientific experiment which confirms the "eyes in the back of the neck" effect. If you put a blindfolded person in a chair in a room, and ask him/her if there is a person behind him/her which is looking at him/her, he/she is right on average 70% of the time. If there was nothing to this, this should be very close to 50%. I can't remember the exact name of this experiment, though.
Step three is a classroom in an illusion of separation, but some of the unity that we all consist of can bleed through to a certain degree.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Morals are a subjective human construct
I don't really agree with this. If you imagine that there are simply two spiritual orientations: the positive/unity orientation and negative/separation orientation, then any action can be determined as having a certain quality from either of those. A moral value is just a way of classifying a certain action as having a quality of either the positive or negative orientation. For example: killing is negative, because it is an act of separation. Loving is positive, because it is an act of sharing or unity.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz You mean:
Quote: Sources of memories
The sources of the memories explained as a result of past lives are most likely narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist, using a process called cryptomnesia. Memories created under hypnosis are indistinguishable from actual memories and can be more vivid than factual memories. The greatest predictor of individuals reporting memories of past lives appears to be their beliefs about the existence in reincarnation - individuals who believe in reincarnation are more likely to report such memories, while skeptics or disbelievers are less so.
Examinations of three cases of apparent past life regression (Bridey Murphy, Jane Evans and an unnamed English woman) revealed memories that were superficially convincing. However, investigation by experts in the languages used and historical periods described revealed flaws in all three patients' recall. The evidence included speech patterns that were "...used by movie makers and writers to convey the flavour of 16th century English speech" rather than actual old English, a date that was inaccurate but was the same as a recognized printing error in historical pamphlets, and a subject that reported historically accurate information from the Roman era that was identical to information found in a 1947 novel set in the same time with a character named Livonia, the same name as a character found in the book. Other details cited are common knowledge and not evidence of the factual nature of the memories; subjects asked to provide historical information that would allow checking provided only vague responses that did not allow for verification, and sometimes were unable to provide critical details that would have been common knowledge (i.e. a subject who was unable to provide the name of the Emperor of Japan during the 1940s despite describing a life of a Japanese fighter pilot during World War II).
This proves what? That some people are susceptible to making stuff up? I don't doubt that. Some people make stuff up, therefore all stuff is made up?
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz No, in this case a clean slate is a convenient way to force reality into fiction.
I'll admit, you make a good point. My view remains, however. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Which we know nothing about and is entirely hypothetical, just like Russell's Teapot.
I have no proof for life on other planets. I wish I had, though.
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Quote:Original post by polymorphed If you were intimately aware of the deeper connection to the universe, how could you ever choose the negative orientation? This veil of forgetfulness and separation creates a very intensive experience which is very efficient at forcing entities quickly into an orientation.
Sorry, I just don't see it.
Is it that hard to imagine that a state of separation and forgetfulness creates an intense experience? - and that an intense experience is efficient at forcing an entity into action?
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz You still haven't proved that's the choice to make.
This is according to the Law of One material. I have no other proof than that.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz It is according to you, or aren't animals 2nd graders in the same classroom as us, 3rd graders?
They are. Step one, two and three tend to co-exist on a planet, for two reasons: One, there is no need to shield these entities from each other. Two, allowing step two and step three entities to interact with each other can actually be very helpful for the development of both parties. The animal is brought into a greater state of self-awareness from the interaction with a human. The human is able to polarize positively by nurturing and loving a pet.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz This is another argument from ignorance, basically you're saying because it cannot be proved either way, it must be so,
No, not really. But I'm saying that the possibility should be left open, which I'm sure is an idea that most participants of this thread do not even consider.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Well, I would expect so, as masturbation though satisfying and enjoyable is rather pointless and brings the question of what exactly is the purpose of that purpose.
The only purpose of the purpose is enjoyment for the Creator. The stroking can be thought of as your actions. Your method of stroking can be thought of as your spiritual orientation. But, regardless of your method of stroking, you will eventually attain the climax: the re-merging with the Creator.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Yeah, but why? why go through all the trouble?
The Creator seems to think that life is worth living. What can I say?
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz Nice straw man there, in reality the scientific community does acknowledge NDE's, but gives them neurological reasons rather than divine or paranormal, and this is not on a whim, it is based on observable, empirical and measurable evidence, seriously, look up all those things you mention before tossing them around based only on what you've heard about them.
A lot of people can recite events that took place while they were clinically dead, but science ignores this, because this is in fact a death blow to any modern scientific explanation of the NDE phenomenon. Therefore, instead of actually looking at the facts, science chooses to invent ridiculous theories such as the brain going on a massive acid trip right before dying.
Now, wait a minute. Shouldn't this be a huge evolutionary disadvantage? The act of associating a positive event with death? Because this is exactly what science is saying - that a dying brain chooses to go on a massive acid trip. WHY?
A lot of people even kill themselves because they want to return to this euphoric NDE state. You would've thought that evolution would've cleaned out a thing such as a positive association with a near death experience a very long time ago. But, the fact remains: people almost exclusively report being bathed in a powerful loving light. There are very few negative NDEs.
Quote:Original post by Kwizatz I think I've covered all there is to cover, forgive me if my further replies are short, at this point it just feels like beating a dead horse.
Well, you want proof that I don't have. The discussion is really starting to suffer from this fact. But hey, it was fun while it lasted! [smile] You'll get to step four some day, and see that I was right! [grin]
Quote:Original post by MTT That is a terrible example because it it not a feasible strategy. So lets instead look at two realistic strategies: the family man and the drug addict. Hell, I can even make up some numbers.
Average family man day (Life span 75 years): Work (+1): 8 hours Home time (+4): 8 hours Sleep (+1): 8 hours ___________________ Life total: 1314000
Average drug addict day (Life span 50 years): High (+10): 3 hours Not High (-1): 13 hours Sleep (+1): 8 hours __________________ Life total: 456250
There is my model describing to you what should already be totally obvious.
Well, my point is that if you can find a configuration which offers you a P value which is way greater than what you'd expect to gain from living your life as evolution intended you to - then that should logically be how you ought to live your life, even if that way of living is by society's standards considered completely insane. Right?
Of course. And if you look closely you will see this is how most people operate. I fairly regularly do things that are probably considered socially unacceptable or sometimes illegal for my own pleasure (or to increase my "P value"), as do most people. Evolution never intended for people to drink alcohol, but they do so anyways because it increases the amount of pleasure they are getting in their life (Intended really is a bad word to be using, evolution doesn't have any intention, it is just a process). A very good example to look at is people who are homosexuals. They are not living by societies standards and they are probably not acting in a way that will lead to maximizing the number of their genes in the gene pool, instead they are doing what will give them the highest "P value" as a homosexual, and yes - I think that is logically be how they ought to live their lives.
I will explain to you why the drug example you keep pointing out does not lead to an optimal "P value", even if you somehow were able to achieve the unrealistic conditions of being able to sustain it indefinitely. The reason why this does not work is because of the law of diminishing returns. There are many different types of pleasure, and as you focus on one for a longer period of time it's value starts to become less and less. This is what they call too much of a good thing. And we are not talking about some flaw in the drug here that could hypothetically be removed, this is how things work with any type of pleasure, and why any strategy that will reach an optimum P value involves getting pleasure from a lot of different areas.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed You say that the universe is something that just happened at random, I say that the universe decides how it should unfold.
You continue to say this is how "The Law of One" says it is and that we are unable to prove that it is otherwise. But unfortunately for you, you have the burden of proof. The theory that you are present is complex and intricate and you have yet to provide any evidence or rational argument for why we should believe things are the way "The book of One" says they are. There are rational arguments that can be used to defend the idea of a creator, but let's just assume for a second that there is one so that we can look at another issue. What are the reasons to believe that things are how "The book of one" proposes them to be, as opposed to how Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Mormonism, or Scientology, or any other religion says they are. Seriously, lay them out because I can't see myself looking at the material otherwise.
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I fail to be convinced by any argument that is roughly in the form of:
Quote: X created you, therefore your life has purpose.
How does that add purpose to my life? Is "merging" with the "Creator" any different to having atoms that once formed me be enveloped by the sun in a couple of (million, I hope) years?
Your entire philosophy might be summed up as "this universe exists so the next will be better". And why does that process have purpose?
My own opinion is that purpose is a meaningless term to attach to the universe. I live for myself and the people I care about, that is all the purpose I require.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed There is a scientific experiment which confirms the "eyes in the back of the neck" effect. If you put a blindfolded person in a chair in a room, and ask him/her if there is a person behind him/her which is looking at him/her, he/she is right on average 70% of the time. If there was nothing to this, this should be very close to 50%. I can't remember the exact name of this experiment, though.
What was the sample size? The 70% goes anywhere from being completely meaningless to absolutely incredible depending on this. If the P-value (the statistical P-value, the probability that this was due to chance) is anything significantly small I would be very quick to want to review the methodology of this experiment, because a meta-analysis of similar experiments shows that this effect has basically been 100% disproven.
Quote:Original post by polymorphed Now, wait a minute. Shouldn't this be a huge evolutionary disadvantage? The act of associating a positive event with death? Because this is exactly what science is saying - that a dying brain chooses to go on a massive acid trip. WHY?
A lot of people even kill themselves because they want to return to this euphoric NDE state. You would've thought that evolution would've cleaned out a thing such as a positive association with a near death experience a very long time ago. But, the fact remains: people almost exclusively report being bathed in a powerful loving light. There are very few negative NDEs.
I want you to reread this and explain to me why it is an illogical argument. If you can not do this then I have lost all faith in your intelligence. Because really, come on...
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Quote:Original post by MTT Of course. And if you look closely you will see this is how most people operate. I fairly regularly do things that are probably considered socially unacceptable or sometimes illegal for my own pleasure (or to increase my "P value"), as do most people. Evolution never intended for people to drink alcohol, but they do so anyways because it increases the amount of pleasure they are getting in their life (Intended really is a bad word to be using, evolution doesn't have any intention, it is just a process). A very good example to look at is people who are homosexuals. They are not living by societies standards and they are probably not acting in a way that will lead to maximizing the number of their genes in the gene pool, instead they are doing what will give them the highest "P value" as a homosexual, and yes - I think that is logically be how they ought to live their lives.
I will explain to you why the drug example you keep pointing out does not lead to an optimal "P value", even if you somehow were able to achieve the unrealistic conditions of being able to sustain it indefinitely. The reason why this does not work is because of the law of diminishing returns. There are many different types of pleasure, and as you focus on one for a longer period of time it's value starts to become less and less. This is what they call too much of a good thing. And we are not talking about some flaw in the drug here that could hypothetically be removed, this is how things work with any type of pleasure, and why any strategy that will reach an optimum P value involves getting pleasure from a lot of different areas.
I think we agree.
Quote:Original post by MTT You continue to say this is how "The Law of One" says it is and that we are unable to prove that it is otherwise. But unfortunately for you, you have the burden of proof. The theory that you are present is complex and intricate and you have yet to provide any evidence or rational argument for why we should believe things are the way "The book of One" says they are. There are rational arguments that can be used to defend the idea of a creator, but let's just assume for a second that there is one so that we can look at another issue.
I'm sure there is lots of evidence out there to support the Law of One material, and I wish I could give it to you. However, my expertise is computer programming.
I believe that the Law of One material is truthful because of my own experiences. For example, the Law of One material states that time is three dimensional, and reciprocal to space. Just as there is our ordinary space/time plane of existence, there is a time/space plane of existence. This explains how I'm able to foretell future events.
In space/time you move freely around in space but remain immobile in time. In time/space however, you move freely around in time but remain immobile in space. The Law of One material states that we enter the time/space plane of existence when we sleep. When we are in time/space, we have the ability to move forward in time to see what we do in space/time the next day or next month.
This is exactly how I foretell future events. At onset of sleep, my consciousness departs the physical body in order to move into some other body which is capable of moving in time/space. I'm then able to experience future events in space/time from the perspective of time/space, store this information in my consciousness (Remember: you are not your physical bodily brain.) and then recall this information upon awakening in space/time.
Quote:Original post by MTT What are the reasons to believe that things are how "The book of one" proposes them to be, as opposed to how Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Mormonism, or Scientology, or any other religion says they are. Seriously, lay them out because I can't see myself looking at the material otherwise.
Well, for starters, the Law of One material is a lot more scientific than any of those religions. The Law of One explains the universe through methods such as vibration, cause and effect and so forth. Christianity on the other hand tells us that God made Eve from Adam's rib.
