http://therabbithole.redback.inficad.com/tricks/orthogonal.html I''ve figured it out and since I''m sure I''m not the only one using DX7...maybe I am...I''ve posted the code snippets with a short tutorial. I did modify the D3DUtil.cpp file to do it. No D3DX stuff here. It is running off my home server so if it''s down...try again in an hour or so. I''m probably just fiddling with it. Ben