i think its silly but if someone wants to see or know more then here is a link http://www.gamedegree.com/?source=adwords I don''t think they do anything special, since I don''t see any good junk comming out. ===========================Also ***The Giant List of Classic Game Programmers*** If anyone cares to see who made the old 8 bit games on the pc. http://www.dadgum.com/giantlist/list.html (again not my fult that GD doesnt have a auto link or show an example on the side when I post) well hope these links helps some.