I stand with Oluseyi.

Why does the West censor things ?
*political incorrectness alert*
Its because the West has a Christian heritage, which restricts things sexual to marriage. I do think the West takes it further than the Bible(check out the Old Testament); but I thiknk thats the fundamental reason.
*dons flame-suit*

~V''lion

Bugle4d

[posts large hot and really bad flame, for fun]

wow. I didnt even think that this would enter the field of religion. It does make sense though...in a way.

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Video games and cartoons in the US have not yet lost their "for kids" social stigma

I think Oluseyi hit the spot. This although probably implies to more then just the US. In Bahrain (my country, in the middle east) censorship is even worse, I mean some local channels even go as far as cutting out kissing from a movie. Although strangely enough, no one pays attention to games. I mean I bought Leisure Suit Larry (all of em) when I was like 13/14 or something, no problem. That was however a game developed by a US based company, Sierra, so obviously Sierra think that games can be made more mature. In-fact, Sierra even developed the Phantasmagoria series, which had real sex scenes in it. I dunno how well those two games did overall, but they were different (from the sexually explicit point of view).

Bangladesh: Since I have really no idea on how Japanese people live, Ill take your word for everything, and it does make more sence that they would allow that specific scene while it would be cut out from the rest of the world. It seems like it''s more of an issue of uncertainty. In Japan you have this kinda stuff all over the place so it''s no big deal. But since it''s not common in the rest of the world, the developers (or maybe the publishers?) figured it''s not worth the risk?

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quote: Since you''re probably talking about Momo here, I would say that Argus''s response is rather off-base. She''s an android who looks like a little child !

First, the fact that she''s an android has no bearing. She is just a collection of colors on the screen as well, but that does not change what is depicted. Perhaps they could show graphical, violent sex between androids (rationale : that''s how they repair each other..) and suffer no censorship too? I mean, it''s all in how you interpret it, but obviously some scenes are intended to evoke a certain response. Just put it together man - the young girl, the older guy, the bodily invasion, the moaning... And everyone knows that anime producers have no qualms with depicting young girls in sexually charged scenes. I''m not saying it''s wrong, but one shouldn''t be surprised by the censorship in the US, which I guess is fairly standard for such publications.

but Argus, you are missing part of the point of the post you are talking about ...

when the poster listed the 2 different interpretations, he did so, not because there was a right or wrong one, but because they are BOTH valid, and both REALLY EXIST in different audience members minds ... what the poster was saying is that people like you and me who see the obvious sexual conotations, see it because of who WE are, and how WE think ... If you ever sit down and watch movies that you saw when you were a child, you would understand ... there is LOTS of adult content and inuindo in those movies ... but it is presented in such a way that it only triggers a response in those who already think about such things ... so the kids get to watch the fun actiony movie or whatever, and the parents get to notice the sexual connotations, and relationship mishaps ...

What I mean is, if you show this scene (in context) to 100 different people ... not all would think anything sexual at all ... particularly not children, or sheltered / innocent adults ... so it doesn''t corrupt people, it simple appeals to already corrupted people''s corruption.

So, we just need to get rid of all corruped people so there will be no corruption.

I personally do not find a guy sticking his hand in another person''s stomach sexual. I find it more violent than anything. I think the whole issue deals with the rating on the game, and what can be seen. If the game had a more mature rating, I am sure it would not have been censored.

That sounds like a similar scene from a game called ONI. Same concept: Friendly young-looking android gets her guts/circuits torn out from the stomach (from what I remember, haven''t played it in a while). Oni wasn''t censored though.... Probably due to the lack of realistic graphics.


I personally find the concept of censoring media dumb. If someone has a message to say to everyone, let them say it. If parents are worried about their children watching some android getting its circuits ripped out of its stomach, then it should be the parents'' job to take care of this.


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quote: Original post by smiley4
So, we just need to get rid of all corruped people so there will be no corruption.

Hmmm, how do you define a "corrupt person".


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Xai - My argument was just that one should not be surprised that the scene was censored. What you describe is not how censorship (at least in the US) works AFAIK. So your argument should be directed at the censorship process, which doesn''t consider favourable interpretations by the viewers in making judgement.