I''m not sure how many people have tried the Hands on Introduction forum, but it rules! (Although I highly recommend the book, Tricks of the Windows Game Programming Gurus...) but anyway, I''m on a search for the files for the projects there... and once I find them, I''ll put up a site. But until then, I make no promises of when this will be up... I''m a newbie myself... so when I find a tutorial that helps me out, I''ll update the page so all the newbies can enjoy it as well. Anyway, tell me what kind of an idea that sounds like... and... well... I''ll try and get on that ASAP (Exams are here... *Shudder*) Thanks! Tim Edwards Newbie Programmer Extrordinaire! (Stupid errors... this seems to be a double post... or is it?)