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Does my concept of division by zero make any sense?

Started by April 08, 2020 10:57 PM
40 comments, last by RulerOfNothing 4 years, 10 months ago

lol I give up.

No, english is not my native anguage.

One last try. I will use simple language (so that you can hopefully understand me).

Q = 2Q = Q² As you said.

So: Q = nQ = Q^m ; n = R \ { 0 } ; m = R \ ( 1 )

So all numbers mulitplied by Q have the same value.

So your system has no use. You can not calculate with it because all possible numbers have the same value. (See first equation of this comment). That is why that System has no use.

h8CplusplusGuru said:
zero times infinity yields one

In the standard accepted mathematical domain, zero of anything is zero. If having none of something means you have one of something, you have a paradox and from a paradox anything can flow.

Consider this. If having zero times an infinite amount of money yields one dollar, then I can repeat that an infinite amount of times, which will yield me an infinite amount of money. Getting rich is then simple: get rid of all your money (send it to me, I know how to dispose of it properly) and you will then have an infinite amount of cash.

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Bregma said:

h8CplusplusGuru said:
zero times infinity yields one

In the standard accepted mathematical domain, zero of anything is zero. If having none of something means you have one of something, you have a paradox and from a paradox anything can flow.

Consider this. If having zero times an infinite amount of money yields one dollar, then I can repeat that an infinite amount of times, which will yield me an infinite amount of money. Getting rich is then simple: get rid of all your money (send it to me, I know how to dispose of it properly) and you will then have an infinite amount of cash.

Paradoxes yes, that is really the essence of 0*Q=1. I don't know if that means its not a valid reciprocal.

@bregma And then, to get an infinite amount of cash, your cash would need to be multiplied by Q. Just having 0 cash isn't multiplying by Q.

Byter said:

So your system has no use. You can not calculate with it because all possible numbers have the same value. (See first equation of this comment). That is why that System has no use.

Just because you can't think of one doesn't mean that is actually the case

First of all I apologize for my sometimes hard to read comments.

h8CplusplusGuru said:
Just because you can't think of one doesn't mean that is actually the case

That sounds like you got my point?

I would generally say the same but in this case not. Because when (nearly) all numbers have the same value and (nearly) everything equals each other, why don't you use just one variable/symbol to express that value all the other numbers express? To say that 1 = 2 or respectively 1Q = 2Q makes it just more complicated than it needs to be.

And because you can't do any standard operations like addition, subtraction, multiplication, division without getting to the same value as before (for example 2Q + 3Q = 5Q, however as described before they all have the same value so it is actually just Q + Q = Q or 2Q = Q, or Q = Q ) the whole System becomes useless for mathematics as we know it.

The only Thing you can do is Count. Like with tally marks (hope that is the right name). And These are way simpler then that whole Thing with Q so whydon't just use tally marks instead?

(And please if you have any questions because you don't understand something I wrote due to language, just ask them I'm happy to answer them ?. language barrier shall not be a thing)

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All that talk about Q, now you've summoned him, tataa:

https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/star-trek-Q.jpg

It's like he would say “Yeuch, a division by 0. The only thing I can't control …”

Qouldn't resist :-)

Byter said:

First of all I apologize for my sometimes hard to read comments.

h8CplusplusGuru said:
Just because you can't think of one doesn't mean that is actually the case

That sounds like you got my point?

No, I mean that you can't think of a use, that's the point of that statement. That doesn't mean there couldn't be one. Some mathematics do divide by zero, and i was thought to be useless for a long time. I'm just describing what Q does. It clearly does do what it does too, and in a strict fashion. Whether it makes any sense to you is beside the point.

Byter said:

you can't do any standard operations like addition, subtraction, multiplication, division without getting to the same value as before

You can do operations, all sorts of operations. The question is how you distribute and use Zero and Q as to what the outcome is, and whether it is true or false.

As I've already covered, the problem has to do with processing potential outcomes.

So you still didn't undestand (and I really don't mean “agree to” when I say understand ) any of my points?

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