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Smartphones/facebook - gone too far?

Started by December 29, 2014 11:47 AM
52 comments, last by Brain 9 years, 10 months ago


Introversion/extroversion has nothing to do with how sociable, shallow or shy you are or not.

If you think that, then perhaps you need to look those two words up in a dictionary. Actually, I'll do it for you:

introvert

noun
a shy, reticent person.

extrovert

noun
an outgoing, socially confident person.

Your dictionary is wrong, shyness is mild fear of social situations. Introversion alone implies no such thing even though a lot of people (even dictionary writers apparently) think so because the two often appear together.

How about discussing the topic instead?


Your dictionary is wrong, shyness is mild fear of social situations. Introversion alone implies no such thing even though a lot of people (even dictionary writers apparently) think so because the two often appear together.

I actually looked it up in several dictionaries, and they all pretty much say the same thing. Where are you getting your definitions from?


How about discussing the topic instead?

It's hard to accurately discuss a subject with people who seem to make up their own definitions of terms.

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Your dictionary is wrong, shyness is mild fear of social situations. Introversion alone implies no such thing even though a lot of people (even dictionary writers apparently) think so because the two often appear together.

I actually looked it up in several dictionaries, and they all pretty much say the same thing. Where are you getting your definitions from?


How about discussing the topic instead?

It's hard to accurately discuss a subject with people who seem to make up their own definitions of terms.

Try this for starters. There are references at the end of the article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion_and_introversion

Ah, I see the source of the discrepancy in our definitions. It's because in general, as in this case, dictionaries give laymen definition of terms (ie as they're used in general everyday discussion), whereas you're discussing it from a technical psychology frame-point. Having never studied psychology, I'll defer to those who have.

Your attitude to change sounds very defeatist. Personally I thought this smartphone behavior would stop once the novelty wore off, but it hasn't happened yet. I think it's the addiction mechanism kicking in. Addiction to constant validation. Awareness of this must be raised. It needs to become shameful, just like gaming addiction is.


If I was with you when you said this, I'd nod, smile, and turn back to my phone.

People are actually entitled to do whatever the hell they want as long as they are not hurting others, including feeling absolutely no compulsion to engage socially or make others feel better with social small talk. If you don't like it, no problem, go find other people to talk to who suit you better.

But the idea that we should shame those who prefer to live life at a distance from others in a quiet way is absurd.

Your attitude to change sounds very defeatist. Personally I thought this smartphone behavior would stop once the novelty wore off, but it hasn't happened yet. I think it's the addiction mechanism kicking in. Addiction to constant validation. Awareness of this must be raised. It needs to become shameful, just like gaming addiction is.


If I was with you when you said this, I'd nod, smile, and turn back to my phone.

People are actually entitled to do whatever the hell they want as long as they are not hurting others, including feeling absolutely no compulsion to engage socially or make others feel better with social small talk. If you don't like it, no problem, go find other people to talk to who suit you better.

But the idea that we should shame those who prefer to live life at a distance from others in a quiet way is absurd.

One reason that people sometimes look down on this kind of behavior is that is a passive-aggressive action. It is not only a hostile action that says "well, I don't really wanna be with you anyways", it's also the weakest form of communicating that. And people tend to not respect weakness either.

If this sounds like a great plan of action then you are certainly free to carry on. I would recommend as a better plan to not hang out with people at all when you don't feel like it, just turn the invitation down. And if you actually feel like it, commit to doing it as well as you can for that short time. This will make not only yourself but also those around you feel a lot better.

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Thank you for your valuable advice on how to conduct my social life. I feel honoured to get such advice from an expert in the subject.

Have you considered writing a book? Seems the world is really missing out.

Thank you for your valuable advice on how to conduct my social life. I feel honoured to get such advice from an expert in the subject.

Have you considered writing a book? Seems the world is really missing out.

This is another fine example of passive-aggressive behavior. If you are offended just say it outright instead of sugarcoating it. It will feel better.

Yawn. Anyway, moving on...

Sad. All I see here is generalizations towards either introverts or extroverts and people excusing themselves with being either when they just have bad manners.

Most of the people I know who bury their nose into their phone are social people that most consider extroverts, by the way. So I think it's safe to say that it has nothing to do with being any of these two things.

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