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Do we work too much?

Started by August 08, 2013 07:06 PM
32 comments, last by orangecat 11 years, 2 months ago

IF you like your job, then even 98 hours a week is acceptable, if you are working simply to pay the bills and you are in that job simply for that, then you may want to look for a new job, it is not healthy.

Rich people don't work less, in fact I am yet to come across a wealthy working man / woman who works less than 60 hours, it is easy to assume the rich / famous don't work but this simply isn't true, this doesn't mean the poor work less though

IF you like your job, then even 98 hours a week is acceptable, if you are working simply to pay the bills and you are in that job simply for that, then you may want to look for a new job, it is not healthy.

Rich people don't work less, in fact I am yet to come across a wealthy working man / woman who works less than 60 hours, it is easy to assume the rich / famous don't work but this simply isn't true, this doesn't mean the poor work less though

Sounds easy to "just" get a new job ... I wish real life was like that.

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Sounds easy to "just" get a new job ... I wish real life was like that.

If someone doesn't like their current job, looking for a new one wont hurt them, they don't have to quit but they don't have to torture themselves being in a place they don't like.

Does it occur to anyone that they're comparing euro salaries with dollar salaries (which is a 34% difference)?

That, and the fact that obviously the author has never been to France. Try and get your trousers or jacket done at an alteration shop within a week. If you come to fetch your stuff on Friday at 11 (because "Friday after 10" was what they told you), you'll find out that they haven't even started. Miraculously, they finish it in 15 minutes if you're telling them that you need to get this airplane in about 2 hours.

Effective? Maybe, but only when it's absolutely necessary.

Are we talking paying jobs?

Because with the day job, housework, yardwork, and my game making hobby, I "work" 80+ hours a week consistently.

I just don't get a paycheck for all that time. Yes, I'd like to turn the hobby into something lucrative, but it hasn't happened yet.

I'm sure there are some lazy people out there, but I'll knock you down if you think I'm one of them.


Sounds easy to "just" get a new job ... I wish real life was like that.

Me too buddy. My day job isn't great, but it's not bad either. I'd like better, but I've also worked a whole lot worse.

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If someone doesn't like their current job, looking for a new one wont hurt them, they don't have to quit but they don't have to torture themselves being in a place they don't like.

For a lot of people, looking for a new job in the US these days is torture. It's hard, it's slow, it's wearying, there's no guarantee that you'll get even one response from dozens of applications, and in the meantime your morale and energy are sucked away working at a job that you can barely stand. And there are few enough jobs available (on a per-job-seeker basis) that jobs tend to be stingier on pay and benefits, let alone satisfaction, than in the past, meaning that there's less of a payoff for switching even if you manage to find a job you like more.


Does it occur to anyone that they're comparing euro salaries with dollar salaries (which is a 34% difference)?

In the article it looks like all the amounts have been converted to US dollars. The nominal number of currency units isn't that important because cost of living is based in the local currency. The exchange rate doesn't matter unless you are converting your paycheck from Euros to dollars and then paying your expenses in dollars, which only works if you are dealing with people that would accept dollars (and why would they, for basic commerce in the Euro zone?).

It's the same idea that a dollar is worth "more", in terms of how much it can buy, in rural Wyoming than in New York or LA. You'll get paid more for the same job in New York or LA versus Wyoming because things like rent and food are more expensive. The nominal wage doesn't tell you much about productivity in this case, unless you think that people in NY or LA are inherently more productive in some way than people in Wyoming.

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Sounds easy to "just" get a new job ... I wish real life was like that.

Depending on your skill set and location, it is easy to find a new job. People who can write software should not have a hard time finding work in the US unless they are avoiding cities with a population over 100k, or are terrible at selling themselves. The unemployment rate for programmers in this country is roughly half that of the national average. If you're having problems find steady work, you're doing something wrong, and it has nothing to do with the recovering US economy.

Sounds easy to "just" get a new job ... I wish real life was like that.

Depending on your skill set and location, it is easy to find a new job. People who can write software should not have a hard time finding work in the US unless they are avoiding cities with a population over 100k, or are terrible at selling themselves. The unemployment rate for programmers in this country is roughly half that of the national average. If you're having problems find steady work, you're doing something wrong, and it has nothing to do with the recovering US economy.

My three year old resume on Monster still gets me an email from a headhunter at least once a week. Granted these aren't job offers (and would require relocation) but people are looking for developers none the less. The Gamasutra job board has multiple new postings added every week. There are jobs out there for developers. I had to pack up and move out to California to get a decent paying developer job.

My three year old resume on Monster still gets me an email from a headhunter at least once a week. Granted these aren't job offers (and would require relocation) but people are looking for developers none the less. The Gamasutra job board has multiple new postings added every week. There are jobs out there for developers. I had to pack up and move out to California to get a decent paying developer job.

Depends on how you look at it. Am I making more in California? Yeah, a lot more. But my rent is about 2.5x what I paid for my mortgage in the midwest. I have a friend who lives in Texas who literally made half of what I did last year, but you wouldn't be able to tell if you looked at hour living arrangements!

That website is bullshit frob. Might as well read lifehack or something than read that.

Seriously. He actually has an article where he strongly endorses the "Law of Attraction". Sweet zombie jesus.

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