Perpetuating the lead is the wealth of apps that are custom designed for the iPad, something other tablet manufacturers lack. Cook said there were 200,000 apps designed specifically for its tablet.
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Well I don't necessarily disagree with that, as I say in my first post - though I think it's hard to assume there's a single reason. People buy all kinds of different devices, for all kinds of different reasons, one of those reasons being software.
I think misunderstanding has derailed the thread course.
When I said, originally, in my first post, that ipad is the new PC, is that people buying it because of the software available, not the OS/hardware itself.
Second I wasn't talking about smart phone ( or non smart phone. yes, I know nokia is popular in that area - not everyone has money. so something that cost 1/20th of Galaxy Note might have 20 times higher sales or something).[/quote]We were still talking about smartphones there- Nokia are popular in smartphones too, and all of the references in this thread to have them have still been on smartphones - though to be honest, the distinction between smartphone and "feature" phone is fuzzy, arbitrary and really came about because of marketing.
I think some people buying at the low end "feature" phone will still consider things like the software platform. Other people will care more about the hardware - as they will for higher end "smart" phones or "tablets".
I was talking about tablets.[/quote]Phones are tablets
Win 7 tablet is no go. wasn't create for finger use[/quote]Exactly - so we shouldn't judge Windows 8 by it.
and the pen is problematic at best (at least Toshiba models i tried) but that's my opnion. Maybe I'm too spolied with my Genius graphic tablet and expect a Win 7 tablet pen to be equally responsive and easy to use (and to me, it didn't).[/quote]Whilst it would be nice to have a pen-tablet that's as good as a graphics tablet, I'm not sure that's a fair comparison either. The question is, is it more accurate and responsive to simply using a finger (since that's all you get when comparing to tablets that don't support that)?
And Android have this "Linux problem" (my term). not only there are numerous version, even the same version have numerous company branch[/quote]Which numerous versions? With GNU/Linux you have different distributions. This is not the case with Android.
(which could change a lot of thing, including not allowing your newly bought phone for use to develop app and debug, can't be used for debugging app.[/quote]I'm curious what you mean by this?
Anyway, win 8 tablet is new in the game. Android is too scattered. And now developers are focusing ipad. hence my earlier post regarding software that i wanted, and only available on ipad. maybe in the future and the time have came for me to buy my second tablet, i might go to win 8 tablet. but right now, ipad is too established.[/quote]Sure, but if everyone only went for the current established leader, then no one should ever buy Macs or Iphones.
Yes, Apple on mobile do seem to get a lot more software support - not that I think it's deserved or fair (as I say above, on phones it's not that they're the largest platform - it's as if people developed for Macs and not Windows). However, raw "app" counts are meaningless - there's still plenty of software on Android to do what anyone wants. And this is one problem that Windows won't have, since it will have all the massive software support than Windows already has - which is way beyond anything Ipad.
In particular, I note that the fact that "application ported to Ipad" makes news headlines, tells you that it's a rare event. Is it headline news when someone releases something for Windows? Not really.
Perpetuating the lead is the wealth of apps that are custom designed for the iPad, something other tablet manufacturers lack. Cook said there were 200,000 apps designed specifically for its tablet.[/quote]What does "custom designed" even mean? If it means something, has this Cook guy gone through every one of those applications, and tested to see if it was "custom designed", whatever that means?
As I say though, raw counts are meaningless (and that doesn't change just by adding the marketing speak of "custom designed"). But if you want to compare, how many apps do you think there are for Windows, compared with OS X or Ipad?
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On a related note, I have been reading more about Windows on ARM - it seems that this isn't simply a port, but rather a locked down version that only runs the Metro/"tablet" applications, which can only be sold through Microsoft's site, as far as I can tell (Windows on ARM seems more like a new OS somewhere between Windows Phone and full blown PC Windows). (If MS had done this on their own, they'd rightly be criticised - but because Apple do it and just get positive media response, MS can now get away with it.) So whilst I have nothing against ARM, I do find myself hoping that Windows does better on x86 tablets than ARM. More generally, if the future of computing is won by ARM, it looks like you can kiss goodbye to open computing.
http://erebusrpg.sourceforge.net/ - Erebus, Open Source RPG for Windows/Linux/Android
http://conquests.sourceforge.net/ - Conquests, Open Source Civ-like Game for Windows/Linux
I can't comment for the USA, but the "world" is bigger than that and over here (Europe) I don't see as many Apple phones/pads/hardware as you mention. Apple as home-desktop is pretty much non-existant, and I've never seen an iPad in my life. iPhones sure, but the users of those usually seem to keep them out and they use them a lot more than, at least I, do.
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I can't comment for the USA, but the "world" is bigger than that and over here (Europe) I don't see as many Apple phones/pads/hardware as you mention. Apple as home-desktop is pretty much non-existant, and I've never seen an iPad in my life. iPhones sure, but the users of those usually seem to keep them out and they use them a lot more than, at least I, do.
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif]I find it amazing that there are probably more people who use an iPad than they use a Mac OSX. I wonder what is the percentage of people who have a iPad and a Win PC. For instance, out of all the Win PC users in the US, X% have an iPad as well. If the iPad was a desktop, would people switch?
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well thats cause ipads are selling gangbusters (how many million last quarter), perhaps youre not aware of it but each quarter macos PC's have been growing at a far faster rate than windows PC's roughly at an order of magnitude larger! windows marketshare has been dropping quite quickly
Not convinced, goto amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Desktop/zgbs/pc/565098/ref=pd_ts_zgc_pc_565098_morl?pf_rd_p=467722371&pf_rd_s=right-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=565098&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0F6K4HPZ0TX8R5YHMV2V
the best 4 selling PC's are all mac's! 5 years ago, you'ld be lucky to see one in the top 25. The growth of ipod->iphone->ipad has also helped the mac OS marketshare greatly
I'm curious what you mean by this?
I find it amazing that there are probably more people who use an iPad than they use a Mac OSX. I wonder what is the percentage of people who have a iPad and a Win PC. For instance, out of all the Win PC users in the US, X% have an iPad as well. If the iPad was a desktop, would people switch?
well thats cause ipads are selling gangbusters (how many million last quarter), perhaps youre not aware of it but each quarter macos PC's have been growing at a far faster rate than windows PC's roughly at an order of magnitude larger! windows marketshare has been dropping quite quickly
Not convinced, goto amazon
http://www.amazon.co...HPZ0TX8R5YHMV2V
the best 4 selling PC's are all mac's! 5 years ago, you'ld be lucky to see one in the top 25. The growth of ipod->iphone->ipad has also helped the mac OS marketshare greatly
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Yeah, I think we have come to the chicken or egg moment. Previously it was either two. will people come to mac first and developer will support it, or developer will support it and then people come?
ipad create a lot of mac compatible developers, and from what i heard, apple is trying to make it sync friendly or something, or close knitted, just like windows mmobile phone and windows os. anyway, to cut long strory short, people are no longer locked to windows.
and interestingly (sadly or happyly?) now that I must use autodesk mobile app, I'm locked to ipad. (and artrage ipad, and flstudio ipad ,and many other things...)
