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Creativity, bad parenting, and a failure of society

Started by November 01, 2009 09:26 AM
37 comments, last by lithos 15 years ago
Quote: Original post by bgilb
Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.


If you truly want to get into architecture your current academic abilities should not be a hurdle. 20 years ago I thought I wanted to do the same, but my grades weren't good enough. So I went back to college, studied a BTEC (Business And Technology Education Council qualification) and got myself a job as an architectural technician (an assistant), for which I needed only basic education. I think I applied to a dozen or more Architects and only got two interviews, but was fortunate enough to impress one of them enough to get a job.

It was poorly paid at first, but provided a clear path towards the profession. After the BTEC I went onto study becoming an actual Architectural technician with some other qualification that I forget the name of now. In short it would take a good 7-8 years but if I had stayed on course I could have become a fully fledged architect in time.

However this was during a minor recession here in the UK, the offices where I worked eventually went down to a 3 day week and I found myself hating the course I was on. I came to realise that actually I didn't want to become an architect at all, the chances of working on an interesting building are pretty remote, certainly not enough to fulfil my creativity.

At the same time I became interested in the newly developing world of Desktop Publishing, which I was able to pursue at the architects by being the only one who understood the technology. I was also becoming fascinated with the world of music, Dj-ing, warehouse parties and the like.

I took the 3 day week as an opportunity to get part-time work at a local record shop, heading up the dance section. Within a few months I handed in my notice and went full-time at the record shop. Stayed there for about a year until I decided that I wanted to get into graphic design. Again this came about from being involved in something related - the rave scene.

So I packed in my job and went to University, I still didn't have the required grades to get onto the course, but my obvious commitment to work and learning from everything i'd done since leaving school, along with showing personal work i'd done in my spare time got me a place.

Here I discovered a group of life long friends with similar interests, but more importantly I was exposed to even more computer technology. I worked both during my studies and during the recesses. Crappy part-time or agency work for everything from working in a supermarket, to making light bulbs, to working in a warehouse.

At this point I was fortunate to get in early to the growing area of multi-media. My degree let me walk into a job in London creating CD-ROM edutainment titles (don't laugh ;)) Although heavily slanted towards design, over the years my interest with programming developed, I had no-one to teach me, so I taught myself, buying bloody expensive books and struggling through.

Around this time the internet/WWW had really taken off and I started to use it more and more as a learning resource. Spending hours on sites like flipcode or here at gamedev. Frequently starting at the beginning of a sub-forum and working my way through all the 'interesting' threads up to the present day.

In a matter of a couple of years, my programming knowledge had developed to the point where I could see going freelance would offer decent pay, but more importantly the freedom to take on interesting projects and so thats what I did.

My parents were always supportive, allowing me to explore whatever area took my fancy, but didn't have the resources to get me personal tuition in anything. Something which i've never felt they owed me or been resentful of. Indeed if anything this helped push me into learning for myself, paying my own way.

We are now living in the information age, an age where information has never been so easily or freely available. I'm still learning today with the help of the internet and broadening my capabilities. I've current invested in a midi keyboard and with the aid of the internet, forums sites and especially things like youtube have been teaching myself to play and write music. Well some might not consider it music, but as a hobby, an alternative creative outlet, it keeps me happy.

So what was the point of all that?

Just to show that its never too late and although you may feel your creativity levels have dropped, they probably haven't. Heck your 22, its still time to enjoy yourself and not worry too much about a life-long profession (if you have no commitments). Neither have you wasted your 'talent' as you go to show that you've gained knowledge in several interesting areas, all of which will be very helpful for future endeavours.

Unfortunately your first post is poorly structured and anyone who starts to skip by what you've written will miss the fourth paragraph and simply assume you are lazy and blaming everyone else. Yet here you actually go to show that you are motivated and can learn by yourself. Hence some of the responses you've received.

As too your inner soul being destroyed by society, welcome to Life. I think thats just a natural realisation of going from childhood to adulthood ;)

Quote: Original post by bgilb
Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.



From my experience, studying architecture doesn't require stellar academic history. I got just average grades from secondary senior school. For studying architecture it is good to have ideas, ability to present those ideas on paper and mathematical way of thinking (understanding proportions / scales). From working experience you'll get to know about materials and working on details etc.

22 years old isn't old. You still have plenty of options in your life.
I got my master's degree in architecture just last year and I am now 30. It took me 8 years to finish the studies. Of course, I studied and worked the same time + spent some time with game programming.

Best regards!

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Welcome aboard.

By the way, 22 is nothing and education is overrated.

"Life is a box of choclate, you never know what you're gonna get"
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Quote: Original post by bgilb
But I feel its too late. I'm too old now. I feel like the talent is wasted. The extreme creativity that was once there is now just mild. My inner soul destroyed by the society around me.


Yep, it's too late. It's time for Carousel.

Heh, I wonder how many people get this reference without Googling. [grin]

Isn't it time for a remake of this?

Oh, yeah, to the OP: get a blog! [wink]

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Quote: Original post by Iron Chef Carnage
Are you paralyzed? Do you have a flesh-eating disease? Are you able to communicate with the people around you? Do you have enough to eat?

You're gonna feel really guilty when he comes back and lets you know he's got a flesh-eating disease that knawed off both his arms and ate all of his food.


I would like to nominate this for Post of the Week!
bgilb, your biggest problem is your attitude.

Stop blaming the past, stop blaming others, stop blaming society. Take control of your life and take it where you want to go.

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You sound like you have ADHD. Talk to a doctor. Your other issues might be helped by seeing a psychologist.
"Walk not the trodden path, for it has borne it's burden." -John, Flying Monk
Quote: Original post by bgilb
From my toddler days I have memories of 3rd grade and constantly staring out the window. Nothing inside the classroom could keep my interest long enough. I wanted to be outside.


I had no one to guide me, I didn't have the abilities to learn on my own.


My inner soul destroyed by the society around me.


That's nice, blaming society for trying to teach you while you refused to be taught.

Everyone at some point thinks they're unique/special/have super-uber untapped potential. Then they grow up.

If you want to get that feeling back, try starting a family. That way you can be and feel special at the same time. And this time it can be for real.
^totally agreed.
Stop believing what you see in tv; success comes with hard work. If you really want to achieve something in your life, you would've start it by now. Do you have any physical handicap? Brain damage? Nobody is stopping you to do what you want with your life.
2d or not 2d,that is the question!!-EJ
What if everything that's happened to you so far is, in some way, invaluable? Just what if? It doesn't have to be true. But just imagine if it was.

Pain ends when you find meaning. If what happened to you was just a sequence of random events, just mindless, unconscious neglect and judgement and isolation, then the pain will linger, or maybe even grow.

If, on the other hand, what happened to you is the raw material you will use to shape your life, to fuel your own fire for the causes that you think are just, for what you think people should care about and how they should treat one another-- well then, the pain becomes something different. It transforms. Deeply personal pain can be like a guide lamp in the dark: It can tell you who to be and lead you away from being tempted to be someone else. It can help you prioritize and winnow the insubstantial distractions that infest this life. It can tell you how to treat your future son or daughter.

Best of all it can do the thing that it's caused you to do now: Look around, look at your life and say, "wait a minute-- is this how it's supposed to be?"

Assume for a minute that you're in a box. You're aware you don't want to be in it, and you're trying to get out. Now assume further that the very tools you're trying to use to get out are what make up the box.

The box is your thinking. The tools you're trying to get out with are your thoughts. It's like you're trying to understand the heavens using a flawed telescope, seeing canals on Mars that aren't really there. Your mind is a buggy program spitting out false beliefs but because you're the system you can't see it.

All you can feel is the pain. And that is another reason why it's invaluable. It's your canary in the coal mine, the alarm compelling you to pay attention.

It may not be comforting to think like this, but you've posted here risking embarrassment (nobody wants to look weak or be called a whiner) so I'd say you've already got the guts to go beyond your comfort level. The next step might take more guts, especially if you're used to feeling like you have to do everything on your own.

If you want to get out of the box, you've got to find someone who has the tools to get you out. You don't have them, else you'd already be out of the box, maybe making music, coding, stargazing-- whatever-- but utterly free of the hold the past has on you.

The past would be in the box, not you.

It took bravery to post something like this on Gamedev, but this is probably not the best venue. You need to be in front of someone who can listen to what you say and counter it, because your words reflect your thinking. Maybe that's a counselor. Maybe it's a pastor. Maybe it's a potential mentor, someone you respect.

Point is, it shouldn't be you talking to yourself in the mirror nor strangers who probably have only the most passing interest in your fate.

If you have the guts to reach out and talk to someone I can promise you from personal experience that you will come to see what's happened in your life in a completely different light. It won't change what's happened, it won't suddenly make shafts of golden light illuminate you in some celestial halo-- no.

But your relation to your past will be different. The past will be in the past. You will get the freedom to decide whether you want to see yourself as a victim or someone who's life has tempered them.

And if you want to really be exceptional-- do it now. At 22. Most guys wait to confront this shit until they're 40 or 50, usually when it looms too large to ignore. If you ever wished someone would have invested in you, saw value in you, then I say be that someone. Your inner soul is not destroyed. You're tougher than that.

You don't have to do this by yourself and even if you think you can you shouldn't. Go talk to a counselor-- even if you're flat broke there are people who will help you for free-- and get your life back.
--------------------Just waiting for the mothership...

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