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Creativity, bad parenting, and a failure of society

Started by November 01, 2009 09:26 AM
37 comments, last by lithos 15 years ago
Dude, as for being 22, not a problem. You've got plenty of time, but you need to not mismanage it. I think you're suffering from something I suffered from for a bit. This delusion of childhood prodigies, etc. Sure, some of them exist, but most of them seem to disappear from the limelight after a month or whatever, and they probably have tons of pressure put on them, killing their creativity.

As far as your creativity problems, don't force it. :| Creativity and talent, imo, seem to work better when they just flow "naturally" instead of being forced. Granted, a little self-discipline and exercising it will help, but don't let it be forced out. Stress is bad for you. And if it is your environment/society, change it, if you can. Maybe moving somewhere else would help or just go somewhere quiet for an hour or two.

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You're at your physical prime and just coming into your intellectual peak. You live in the richest country in the world. Seriously, stop @#%&ing whinging and get off your ass.


Seriously? At the risk of LessBread reading this and realizing I've not researched this and posting the necessary references to counter my statement, I'mma saying that I always though physical prime was later twenties/thirties? And intellectual prime about the same or later? Anyway, I'm pretty sure that proper maintenance and exercising of both will prolong this "prime".

"You are only old when your hopes and dreams are replaced by regrets."

Your life has just started dude, either make something of it now or cry about it for the next 50 odd years.
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From my toddler days I have memories of 3rd grade and constantly staring out the window. I really had a problem with attention. Nothing inside the classroom could keep my interest long enough. I wanted to be outside. I wanted to learn hands on. I wanted to build things. But this isn't want the teachers wanted from me, they wanted me to conform. One teacher resorted to putting me in the corner, away from all the other students. I wasn't allowed to talk to anyone for half the year. It was horrible. It seemed like no one knew how to handle me, that I was this burden that no one could take care of. They made the decision to do whatever was necessary to make me act normal. It's funny because today I know what they did was wrong. But back then, they made me feel like what I was doing was wrong. I was a kid, I didn't know better.


It is well-known that public school systems are exceptionally poor at handling students who don't fit into the expected moral and academic profile of an nth grader, for various values of n. You are not the only one who did not receive education well-suited to your needs.

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When I was around ten my family acquired a piano. Though it was mostly just for show. Anyways, I took a keen interest in the piano over everyone else. With what little books and information we had I tried my hardest to learn what I could. I thought maybe if I impressed somebody that they would find someone that could teach more, or at least notice me. I showed my Dad what I had learned, absolutely no interest from him. My Mom said she would try to get me piano lessons, but of course that never happened.


Not everybody got everything they asked for from their parents when they were kids. Have you thought about those kids who didn't even have pianos?

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I tried so many things. When I was thirteen I tried to build a telescope completely on my own. I tried to learn guitar completely on my own. I tried to learn to program video games. They all failed. I had no one to guide me, I didn't have the abilities to learn on my own. There's so many stories just like this from my younger days. Eventually I reached seventeen or eighteen. This was a breakthrough age for me, because I no longer needed help from anyone else to learn anything. All in a span of one or two years I learned guitar, programming, astronomy, etc.


The content of this paragraph is that you weren't a prodigy who learned programming, astronomy, and music (both guitar and piano) before becoming a teenager.

Don't worry about it. It absolutely does not matter in any way. Having had prodigious abilities as a child is not a prerequisite for any job or profession on the entire planet.

The lesson to be learned here is to never idolize prodigies or prodigious ability. You will only end up depressed, unproductive, and wasteful of the natural talent you do have.

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But I feel its too late. I'm too old now. I feel like the talent is wasted. The extreme creativity that was once there is now just mild. My inner soul destroyed by the society around me.


Even the most remarkable prodigies generally do not produce anything worthwhile while very young. Your talent was absolutely not wasted. You have it all backwards. It's as if you expected that you would have your career behind you by the time you reached college. [smile] Now that you are 22, this is the time to use your talent, not ten years ago when you were supposed to be out playing on the playground with friends.

I present to you proof that it's never late to pursue anything. See also this thread.

Now go out and use your talent like you should be doing!
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Are you paralyzed? Do you have a flesh-eating disease? Are you able to communicate with the people around you? Do you have enough to eat?

You're gonna feel really guilty when he comes back and lets you know he's got a flesh-eating disease that knawed off both his arms and ate all of his food.
Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.
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Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.
Send in a letter explaining your situation. I'm sure they'd understand. Or just don't tell them if they don't ask for that information. Or and this is a little easier ask for an interview. It's architecture how hard could it be to get it?

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Quote: Original post by bgilb
Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.

Have you actually contacted any schools?

Universities are (generally) most strict on the 18-19 year old kids coming straight from high school. They soften the requirements over time.

Community colleges usually have extremely low entrance requirements. Many offer associates degrees or courses that are transferrable to universities. Many have only one requirement: the ability to pay. If you can get your associates degree or enough transferrable credits, there should be no difficulty in going to a university.

You should also consider trade / vocational schools. The programs they offer vary widely. Many will help you get professional accredidations and certifications, other programs can be trasferred for college credit.

Figure out a realistic list of schools, then pick up the phone and call the admissions office.
Quote: Original post by bgilb
Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.


Unless you're trying to get into a top program, I don't see how a less than stellar academic history would keep you out of architecture school.

What particular difficulties are you having? Do you feel like others whose parents did get them piano lessons (for example) have an advantage over you when it comes to college admissions? (I'm wondering if this is what actually motivated this thread.)
Quote: Original post by bgilb
Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.



Honestly, I try to not slip up and let this information fall into the hands of high school-aged kids, but I will take the chance to announce it in a public forum: What you do in high school really doesn't matter at all. A lot of my friends slaved away to get the best grades they could get so they could get into University of <blank> at <blank>. I skipped classes and slept through the ones I went to. I went straight to work after dropping out (I had a lot of problems going on back then). A few years later, I decided to go to college, and all I had to do was start at a state college and take the Compass Test for entry. It was only about 50 questions. I was pretty rusty on the math, so I had to take some developmental classes there. After that, a year in, I just transferred to a nice university. So...I just basically skipped the whole "High school" thing and got the same end results without ever even having to take the SAT or ACT. I am not sure why they are so hard on kids, because this route never even asked about what I did in high school. After graduation, the only thing employers are interested in is that you got a degree and from where. They don't ask about your high school performance, nor where you went the first year of college.
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Quote: Original post by bgilb
Thank you for all the replies they mean a lot.

My only problem is that the past is affecting me now. I really want to get into an architecture school but I don't see how that is even remotely possible with my less than stellar academic history.

Have you actually contacted any schools?

Universities are (generally) most strict on the 18-19 year old kids coming straight from high school. They soften the requirements over time.

Community colleges usually have extremely low entrance requirements. Many offer associates degrees or courses that are transferrable to universities. Many have only one requirement: the ability to pay. If you can get your associates degree or enough transferrable credits, there should be no difficulty in going to a university.

You should also consider trade / vocational schools. The programs they offer vary widely. Many will help you get professional accredidations and certifications, other programs can be trasferred for college credit.

Figure out a realistic list of schools, then pick up the phone and call the admissions office.


That's good advice. I would also suggest putting together a package demonstrating the skills he picked up on his own -- guitar, programming, astronomy, etc.

"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes." - the Laughing Man

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