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What's the worse thing a gf has done to you?

Started by September 04, 2009 01:08 AM
64 comments, last by owl 15 years, 2 months ago
Quote: Original post by kutraj

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents to the earlier discussion. I think the problem is that people today get into relationships because of a kind of social pressure that seems to act on them. I dont know if most people (who get into relationships) are emotionally ready to get into one, and if they even try to sustain it beyond a point.


A lot has been written about the current generation's seeming inability to grow up and form meaningful relationships. Although written from a female perspective and focusing exclusively on the shortcomings of the modern child-man, ignoring the similarly obnoxious princess-woman, I like this article:

Child-Man in the Promised Land

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We can argue endlessly about whether “masculinity” is natural or constructed—whether men are innately promiscuous, restless, and slobby, or socialized to be that way—but there’s no denying the lesson of today’s media marketplace: give young men a choice between serious drama on the one hand, and Victoria’s Secret models, battling cyborgs, exploding toilets, and the NFL on the other, and it’s the models, cyborgs, toilets, and football by a mile. For whatever reason, adolescence appears to be the young man’s default state, proving what anthropologists have discovered in cultures everywhere: it is marriage and children that turn boys into men. Now that the SYM can put off family into the hazily distant future, he can—and will—try to stay a child-man. Yesterday’s paterfamilias or Levittown dad may have sought to escape the duties of manhood through fantasies of adventures at sea, pinups, or sublimated war on the football field, but there was considerable social pressure for him to be a mensch. Not only is no one asking that today’s twenty- or thirtysomething become a responsible husband and father—that is, grow up—but a freewheeling marketplace gives him everything that he needs to settle down in pig’s heaven indefinitely.


Perhaps successful relationships are grounded in something deeper than narcissism and personal pleasure. Maybe relationships are about building something bigger and require a sense of responsibility, of duty, which is sometimes difficult to reconcile with the notion of doing what feels right (spelled comfortable).

Quote: Original post by kutraj
The thing is that most relationships dont last very long because the people involved get bored of each other, which again brings us to the question of 'why did they find each other interesting in the first place?'


Sparks are only momentary and flames eventually burn out. Few have the luxury of falling into lifelong relationships that remain "interesting" forever. I think relationships require both people to forget the idea that they will ever find a perfect partner and to instead find peace in sacrificing something in order to create something larger and inherently valuable. Love in this view is something that two people do, not merely feel (or expect to feel).
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Quote: Original post by Mr Explody
So it seems that a lot of guys here get hurt a lot by girls. I don't mean this to sound rude, or obnoxious, but do gay people suffer the same relationship issues, or is this the curse of the heterosexual male?


XKCD made a comic about this:


No, it's not the curse of the heterosexual male, it's the curse of anyone pursuing love. To quote an unknown writer:

"Love is giving someone the power to hurt you terrible.
... and hoping they don't.
And we never trust anyone as easily as we did the first time."

And that's exactly it. I know plenty of men hurt by women, but I also know plenty of women who got their hearts crushed by men. It's part of the whole love deal, by creating an emotional attachment to specific persons.

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Quote: Original post by Mr Explody
So it seems that a lot of guys here get hurt a lot by girls. I don't mean this to sound rude, or obnoxious, but do gay people suffer the same relationship issues, or is this the curse of the heterosexual male?


Lots of girls get hurt by guys as well. This forum just happens to be populated by mostly males. Most relationships fail because they are founded on irrational and often incorrect assumptions and expectations. As far as I can tell, homosexual relationships are no different.

ukdeveloper, just for the record I thought you were serious as well.
I feel for ya, bzroom and hope things work out for the better, whichever path that may be.

The way I see it, however, is not to wait up for someone that hasn't bothered keeping in touch. If she wants you back, let her come to you. Life's too short to keep waiting.
Quote: Original post by Toolmaker
And that's exactly it. I know plenty of men hurt by women, but I also know plenty of women who got their hearts crushed by men. It's part of the whole love deal, by creating an emotional attachment to specific persons.


Yeah, but they seem to be naturally better prepared than men to get over it. Like if they had a natural confidence that they are going to "mate" anyway no mater what they do.

Most men seem to lack that feeling, most of us have to learn it from experience and yet we get marked for life. I know women that went literally crazy on a man, but they continue functioning well for everything else. (And my bet is that they were crazy already before meeting the guy).
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