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For a lot of the birthers, it seems the "he's an immigrant" bit is really just code for "he's strange and foreign," which is code for "black," coupled with the handful of crazies who genuinely believe it.
You don't think they're going to accuse Obama of being black?!
Why not? It's not like they'll accuse him of being white!
He's a black president with a Kenyan father. That's just too much for some "patriots" to bear, thus Birthers. Besides, previously he was "Muslim," but that didn't get much traction (especially since he was being attacked for his long-time affiliation with Rev. Wright).
Oh, and healthcare. The far-right wing doesn't want to discuss healthcare (though most of the far-right wing supporters would really benefit from universal healthcare, but it's like institutionalized Stockholm Syndrome where they identify with and defend the rights of corporations over their own, plus "socialism!").
The one benefit of all of this is the unraveling of the bullshit "post-racial" narrative that some in the media were trying to push after Obama's election. We ain't post shit.
/me puts Jeezy's "My President is Black" on repeat... again. [smile]
All I can say is: when the people in the linked video started to cheer the only thing that came to mind was any South Park episode where the townspeople cheer some ridiculous plan or event. Not a good comparison.
Quote:Original post by rip-off All I can say is: when the people in the linked video started to cheer the only thing that came to mind was any South Park episode where the townspeople cheer some ridiculous plan or event. Not a good comparison.
Quote:Original post by rip-off All I can say is: when the people in the linked video started to cheer the only thing that came to mind was any South Park episode where the townspeople cheer some ridiculous plan or event. Not a good comparison.
It's not that hard to understand, and the health care issue is just one of the many programs.
The logic is simple:
The President has instituted or is encouraging {Program X}. I do not like {Program X}. I have no power over {Program X} as long as he is the President. Therefore, I will deny that he is the President.
This just happens to be the disqualification criteria being sought for President Obama.
Consider several other disqualifications that have been used:
* He can't be President because the vote was invalid (eg. the Supreme Court issued a ruling on the Florida votes) * The Electoral College is wrong (eg. several elections with a close popular vote or the losing candidate won the popular vote) * The President is too old to competently exercise the office (eg. President Reagan age 69, candidate McCain age 71) * The President mis-spoke the oath of office and is therefore disqualified (several presidents, including Obama) * The President must be impeached, found guilty, and removed from office (eg. Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, and lesser charges against many others)
Claims that the President is not allowed to hold office is common to every presidency.
Some asshole stated it like it was a fact. Than everyone else decided that that was good enough for them so they jumped on and decided he wasn't born in America.
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"It's racist," said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. "It's racist. Just call it for what it is."
Mr. Griffin said the cable news coverage was set off by two back-to-back events: the introduction of a bill that would require presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate (it has nine co-sponsors in the House and one in the Senate) and the video of a town hall held by a Republican Congressman that turned into a hearing on Mr. Obama's citizenship.
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Remarkably, there is even a reference to Mr. Obama's birth in the "Births, Marriages, Deaths" column of The Honolulu Advertiser newspaper on Aug. 13, 1961.
I also think that this whole deal is just about racism.
But the Obama thing aside, I was wondering about this strange law that only US-born citizens may become president. Consider:
A) An illegal immigrant gives birth to a child on US soil, while being illegally in the country (duh). As far as I understand, the child will automatically get US citizenship in this case. He was born in the US, and can therefore become president. Even if he has no further connections or doesn't feel any kind of 'loyalty' for the US.
B) Legal US citizens get their child while being on vacation abroad (maybe due to an unforeseen medical complication). The child was not born in the US, so it will never be able to become US president.
