Guys,

the first scene with Megan Fox (on the motor bike) has to count for something [smile]

Quote: Original post by davepermen
he just shut down NEST after the japanese intro happening. because they didin't "hide" well. not that you can hide well if you're 20m large or bigger.. :)

No, that's not when he shut them down. That's when he put them on notice that they would be shut down if one more thing went wrong.

Quote: this was going on in parallel and didn't had directly to do with each other much. but it gave the autobots a chance to go to egypt after they wheren't allowed to do anything. they got a free flight.

That makes no sense. Why would they take the Autobots to Egypt to get rid of them? When he asked them to leave, he meant leave Earth, not America.

Quote: Original post by janta
Guys,

the first scene with Megan Fox (on the motor bike) has to count for something [smile]

Sure the movie had some faults, but what is boils down to is that it is a movie about giant f-ing robots, explosions, and Megan Fox. I went in expecting a fun high octane ride and that is exactly what I got. Honestly, there were only probably three points in the movie that genuinely bugged me -
* The mom going completely nutso over some hash brownies. Seriously, its just pot.
* The terminator chick. WTF?
* The Neo/Jesus revival at the end. Bleh, I hate it when movie do that.

Quote: Original post by zer0wolf
Sure the movie had some faults, but what is boils down to is that it is a movie about giant f-ing robots, explosions, and Megan Fox. I went in expecting a fun high octane ride and that is exactly what I got.

I'm glad you were entertained. I got bored. So much so that the scene where Optimus, post-revival, took off half of Megatron's face and killed The Fallen was kind of underwhelming. At that point I just wanted to go pee. (The film is 149 minutes long.)

Quote: The mom going completely nutso over some hash brownies. Seriously, its just pot.

I literally said, "What is this, Reefer Madness (which is on Google Video, incidentally)?"

Quote: The terminator chick. WTF?

They're called Pretenders.

Quote: The Neo/Jesus revival at the end. Bleh, I hate it when movie do that.

It's been in the Transformers mythos since the mid-80s. They killed Optimus Prime in Transformers: The Movie, with Hot Rod growing into Rodimus Prime after accepting the Autobot Matrix of Leadership as his successor. They later brought him back. They've also killed him - and revived him, possibly twice - in the comics.

You liked the first one? WTF? The first one is the reason I won't even watch a borrowed pirate copy of the second one.

Anyway, if you want to see two guys rant for more than an hour about the movie check out Spoony Experiment

Quote: Original post by zer0wolf
* The terminator chick. WTF?
* The Neo/Jesus revival at the end. Bleh, I hate it when movie do that.

I thought the Pretender was awesome. It only seemed logical to me that a transforming robot would take the form of a human to hide among... well, humans.

I think that Sam's revival/healing would have been better if they'd made him a cyborg. The Matrix dust was after all leaking on the ground right beside him, it wouldn't have taken much effort to have it leak ON him. If a single touch from the All-Spark overloads his brain with alien knowledge, why can't something that is arguably just as powerful touching his broken body not only repair it, but "improve" it?

Quote: Original post by Kwizatz
You liked the first one? WTF? The first one is the reason I won't even watch a borrowed pirate copy of the second one.

Anyway, if you want to see two guys rant for more than an hour about the movie check out Spoony Experiment

True dat, film 1 sucked a whole lot. In fact, the cartoon was the best of the three, which is quite sad really. The first film felt like an army recruitment video, and focused far too ...y'know what...I'm going to post my hate list for the first film..sorry if this is off-topic.

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i) Blatant and persistant product placement cheapened the movie. It's ok when it's tounge in cheek or when the movie needs a bit of extra funding to keep it going, but this was going to be a blockbuster and the shocking amount of products made iRobot (another pile of wankery) look conservitive in it's advertising.

ii) The autobots hiding around Sams house scene was pathetic. Asside from the logistics of it (nobody will notice giant robots hiding around a house and moving?!), it was incredibly uncharacteristic of the bots (explained in point ix). That whole scene was a stupidly long slapstic adventure that shouldn't have made the cut. After Optimus Prime had made such a big deal about the spark and finding the glasses, to slump into this 'wacky' scene was pitiful.


iii) The whole 'group of hackers trying to figure out the signal' subplot was almost entirley superflous to the movie.

iv) Every character in the film seemed to fill a ratial stereotype (Jazz) a cliché (bumbling government officials/jocky boyfriend/fat geek) or just be bland and without personality (decepticons, who alltogether must've had about 20 seconds of voice presence in the film).

v) The decepticons all looked almost identical, which in itself is rubbish (remember how they looked unique in the cartoon?), and also leads us to..

vi) and given the too close camera (seriously dude, back it up a few feet...guess they wanted to save some of that hard earned product placement money and avoid paying artists to do animations/renders of full bots) and too choppy camera angles, the fights were often a bit confusing.

vii) The film should've been renamed "some humans...and eventually some robots", because rather than following the Autobots and Decepticons in their battle accross the universe, it focused entirley on the antics of some humans, with the odd glimpse of transformer fighting if you were lucky...they just focused on the storyline of some humans that I don't care about. It's like making the lord of the rings triology follow Bilbo Baggins...

viii) The bots plots weren't developed at all. Rather than explain to a new generation the story of the autobots and decepticons, and the characters of the bots, they glazed over their personalities.

ix) The little exposure the bots got seemed to ignore their past. (tip: Optimus Prime would never say "oops, my bad", they might aswell have gotten him to rap). Other examples include making Jazz 'black'. They didn't have to, there was no need to, but they made him sound like someone from the hood. Asside from being a bit racist this was simply stupid and showed lazy scriptwriting. There was no power struggle between starscream and megatron, instead the decepticons rolecalled and that was their lot.

x) The autobots were mildly superflous to the whole fight given that humans can seemingly defeat decepticons on their own. Infact one human can simply skid along his back along concrete (?! without sustaining any injuries seemingly) and deliver killing blows to them.

xi) As a mild asside, the origonal transformers theme didn't feature in the movie at all. This was just a bit crap really, maybe not a hated point.

x) Laughable plotholes/appauling logic. See "taking the spark to a crowded city to maximise civilian casualties" as a good example.

If you want to see a good transformers movie go watch the origonal from the 80's. Yeah it's a bit outdated (though the collectors edition revamped one looks and sounds quite nice), but it follows the story of Transformers, has true characters in it, and addresses concepts of friendship, war and death in a more "grown up" way than this steaming pile of shite did.

Both of these films were bad. Megan Fox wondering around with skin showing doesn't validate the film, if anything it further demeans it. It's like people trying to argue The Unborn was somehow worth watching because the protagonist wonders around in her underwear quite a bit. If you want to see girl parts, go watch a porno. You'll see more, and you won't have to endure Michael Bay's idea of cinema in the process.

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And Bumblebee's vocal units still aren't fixed?! Even after he touched the AllSpark?

Mikaela asks Sam, "Is he still having voice problems?" To which he replies, "He's playing it off." I took that to mean that he really doesn't have voice problems, but he sometimes pretends to. I dunno though, I could be wrong.

I agree with pretty much everything in Oluseyi's post. It was way too long, had too many useless side plots, etc. etc. To be honest, I kind of think the trailer for the movie was cooler than the movie itself. At least the trailer had Optimus's quote "Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing" at a cool part, as well as sweet music synchronized to a battle. Too bad the movie didn't.

I also thought the movie was unnecessarily crude. Seriously, this is a movie that every 8 year old boy is going to want to see. Do you really need dogs humping each other (and a robot? WTF?) and to talk about sucking the ball sack?

Anyway, I did think the fight scenes were pretty cool, but I don't think they justified the rest of the movie.

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Quote: Original post by janta
Guys,

the first scene with Megan Fox (on the motor bike) has to count for something [smile]

I still like her ability to efficiently conceal her toe thumb