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The possibility exists, but I wouldn''t bet on MS support for Visual Basic games.

I highly doubt it.

VB is Windows dependant and not a gaming language. If the XBox is like every other system, it probably doesn''t have a full OS on it. VB wouldn''t work if that''s the case.

The XBox was designed around DX8 so 7 may work but that depends on the hardware. More than likely it''s DX8 only in order to get a good performance boost. I would suspect there''s no DDraw support.

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If the XBox is like every other system, it probably doesn''t have a full OS on it

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This is Micro$oft we are talking about here... It will have windows on it. Even if the explorer shell isn''t there some version of windows will be there.

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I doubt it, the stuff you would need to do to get it to work would be plain annoying to do. Like the need to have things like forms and all those controls would probably be a bit unneccesary for games, yet they are fairly standard for many VB applications.

Trying is the first step towards failure.

when i was talking about a vb + dx7 game i was talking about all dx7 no checkboxes or other lame components like that. The only window i use is the one where i draw my stuff pretty much like it''s done in c++

now... anyone ever had some experience with xbox and tell me if its possible or not?

X-Box will be running on a propriatery version of Windows CE (not the same as hand-helds). Microsoft is developing a special version for the X-Box... Unfortunatelly VB or DX7 will not be possible.... It will be C++ and DX8 only! Also, it will be actually easier to program for X-Box than Win95, cuz there''s less API!

VB isn''t a real compilable language like C++ is. Not using the checkboxes and stuff doesn''t free it from the bounds of Windows. You need vbrun400.dll or a version thereof for any VB program and probably a bunch of others.

That''s why it''s never really used for games that require high framerates. It''s also not even remotly portable.

Ben
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Umm Xbox will run on a slimmed down version of the win2k kernal. Just the kernal mind you, it weighs in at around 386k and fits on a ROM chip. Not winCE.

Technically there IS a workaround for the VB thing (a dev friend of mine told me) if you design your game to SPECIFICALLY ONLY USE A SIDEWINDER CLASSIC GAMEPAD, no mouse, the XBox would read the controls. If you included (hypothetical) the VB runtime DLL on the CD it MIGHT run it. Also, there''s talk of an XBox Explorer for that hard drive, being released a month or two after the Xbox itself, that includes APIs to use a mouse cursor from the analog sticks, similar (sorta) to a trackball.