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Don't argue with this, just accept it.

Why not apply that to everything you say, rather than a specific point? You are sure to win the argument then!

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Quote: Original post by Dex Jackson
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Don't argue with this, just accept it.

Why not apply that to everything you say, rather than a specific point? You are sure to win the argument then!

You can do that?!? sweet. You all owe me money. Don't argue with this, just accept it.

You owe me caek too. [grin]

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Quote: Here's another fact for you:[...]

My annecdotal experience suggests otherwise. I'm not actually arguing against your point and have no idea if your claim is fact or not[...]

When I was a teenager I worked in a diner for about a year. Some of the older cooks said they knew certain types of people never ordered certain items off the menu, that other types of people were the only people to ever order certain things, etc. I thought it was bullshit, and we were all bored as hell anyway, so I suggested being scientific about it. We spent 6 months tallying demographics data against menu orders. It turned out that almost all of the "patterns" weren't true, except for one.

Yeah, I work casually selling fast food after doing it full time for a number of years, but specifically stated that I wasn't actually arguing the point based on my differing experience precisely because I suspect such observations are often wrong if actually tested. Unless he's got some actual statistical evidence that he didn't bother to present I suspect Dex's "fact" is based on just as shaky an assumption - or possibly even more so given that as far as we know he doesn't actually work distributing food. It'd be quite interesting to test the observations our staff do make, but I don't think I can be bothered actually gathering the data like you did in the diner.

Quote: However, this was just one city, so it might have been more of a local thing.

Also a very valid point that Dex should probably take into account before claiming his personal experiences constitute fact in future.

Quote: Original post by Oluseyi
What does what Africans eat have to do with what African Americans eat, given that the two populations forked over 400 years ago?
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Don't be ridiculous! Weren't you paying attention to Dex at all?!? His point of view, whilst apparently not supported by any sort of scientific evidence (he said so in his own post!) and apparently being different to what we'll find if we research the topic online (he said that as well) is A FACT. Don't even try to argue with it! [lol]

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Quote: Original post by Dex Jackson

Quote: Original post by Hodgman
You still haven't told me why you think African Americans like fried chicken though.

When you go west-coast style (that's Africa west-coast style- Aha!) and down the south of Africa, you get almost everyone, if not every Black African, there eating chicken at some point during the day, whether in tribal camps or in villages and towns. It's just a big part of our food staple in regards to protein and meat intake.

:sigh:

What does what Africans eat have to do with what African Americans eat, given that the two populations forked over 400 years ago?

Second, many Africans actually eat meat protein as a garnish/delicacy (it remains expensive, even now), in contrast to the United States where it is the defining element of the meal. In the US you would say, "We're having steak for dinner," whereas in most of Africa you'd say "We're having rice with chicken" - rice being the "meal" proper.


Dude, you're way out on a limb.

This is absolutely correct. Most people in Southern Africa (Botswana, South Africa, Zimbabwe,Zambia etc ) eat meat once a week once a day at the most. People in the rural areas keep livestock for their by products rather than for consumption, so they often go for longer periods without eating meat.

Quote: Why do so many people play the race card?

Makes 'em feel like they're doing something intellectual. Like correcting someone's spelling/grammar or voting.

[Edited by - Zmurf on May 13, 2009 1:31:45 PM]

"I'm stuck moral quandary right now and I don't know what to do"- in relation to ukdeveloper post. Hmmm... "It doesn't matter". (There are two quotes in there, one's a well known comumentary and the other is an adventure game from an older time).

I don't think I'll reply to such abuse with abuse. I may of ticked them off, although BNP jokes are never funny. Oh well...
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On a more pressing note, what ukdeveloper said about the infant with a gun

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At least I can walk home without an illegal immigrant four year old shooting me in the head with an AK47 then spending my cash on drugs and protection money.

rings quite true, to an extent:

1. Four year olds don't use AK47s; four year olds use 9mm-calibre guns! If AK47s were that available, msot of the global populace would be dead.
2. If I take your four year old example and put as though the kid was an Indian or Eastern-European, that would mean that either the kid belongs to a Russian/Serbian/Polish equivalent of a Asian Tong, or that they belong to Punjabi Mafia assoicates in Britain. Hmmm... Yeah, I agree- in regards to that example of course.
3. Kids can't aim a gun to save their toys! Except those NWO types that train their kids to do so. (I know it's stereotypical, but seriously, those guys are scary!)
4. In East Africa, glue-kids are a common sight in the slums.
5. I had no idea protection rackets were still going on in London. I mean, I know that the Essex Firms, Asian Tongs, Russian/Indonesian/Japenese sex traffickers and that crowd (in space game terms, you can put them down as Pirates) still do, but not Mafiya or Sardar!.

Right, that's my piece for now. Just wondering: Is this Thread dead now? It might be now that I've asked th question.

I've been reading this thread and not wanting to say anything since it was an obvious flame bait but I was just reading it when somebody shoved a leaflet through the letterbox asking me to vote for the BNP in the upcoming elections. Spooky.

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/end of rant

You're not ranting. You're processing. Seriously, I would have told the higher powers if someone was to call the race card directly at me in my college. I most likely would have talked to them again if they were in my class and if they were a partner for a project, after which I wouldn't go near them again. Also, if they called aganist the Black side, then it's time to "call in the boys; we're gonna get medieval on yo ass!" *cocks shotgun* (Not really, you really think I'd do that! I would be happy with them being suspended from the college and from further entry into the course).

You can get punished that badly for playing the race card? Where I live if you play the race card at any time, the person you play it against is automatically jailed (exaggeration).

I thought that was the point of the race card - that you don't get in any trouble with anything whatsoever if you use it?

Quote: Original post by Buster2000
I've been reading this thread and not wanting to say anything since it was an obvious flame bait but I was just reading it when somebody shoved a leaflet through the letterbox asking me to vote for the BNP in the upcoming elections. Spooky.

I've always been curious about this part of British politics - how exactly does the BNP identify itself to political moderates (which I would argue are the majority of the population)? Their brochures can't come out white-hooded and burning crosses, but at the same time their position is so extreme that that is the only way to even get remotely close to informing a potential voter of their policy.

Perhaps they are just disingenuous, like our Tories.

I'd say one of their recent defences pretty much sums it up, here's the BBC article