Looks like Sun opened up a JSR to add a gaming API to facilitate creating java games. Hopefully we will see it within a year... http://java.sun.com/aboutJava/communityprocess/jsr/jsr_134.html

We have posted a new JSR, thanks for mentioning it. Regarding the "within a year"....hold on to your hats, things are about to get very interesting.

-Chris Melissinos
www.JavaGaming.org

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Java is the best language we have, so no matter what it will be used in games eventually. I think sun is making a mistake to try to set a 3D standard, because they''re not a 3D company (as far as I know). Sun should concentrate on debugging and optimizing their OS, not trying to write everything for everybody. This is the same way Microsoft has lost their focus on OS development.

While I''m at it, where is Sun''s Java OS??

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Java is the best language we have

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Excuse me? What kind of statement is that?

I happen to like Java for a lot of stuff. I think that it''s a syntactically cleaner language than C and C++, but similar enough that it''s easy to use for those with C or C++ experience. But I''m willing to bet that you''d prefer C with inline assembly if you wanted to write an OS.

Then there are a lot of languages that aren''t in common use which have some really strong features. I like Lisp and ML a lot. While Lisp has a VERY strange syntax, you''ll find that it is also a very simple syntax, and quite expressive. ML, especially ocaml, is a very fast language for many applications, and it has a very straighforward syntax.

Despite how much I dislike perl in general, it''s a good language to write some programs in, due to its extensive (and easy) use of regular expressions.

Python is a great language for some purposes, and also has a very clean (although slightly odd at first) syntax.

While I''ve never used ICON, I hear that it''s an incredible language for making parsing and text manipulation easy, at a much higher level than perl does.

Java is a nice language, and the one I''m most proficient in currently. However, saying that it''s "the best language we have" is rather ridiculous.

Java is far from perfect. Quite a lot is missing from the language. Its platform will always be a problem, it is a very serious issue too. That said it is much nicer to work with than other languages, it just really lacks power. Java is a step, not a destination. Unless there is a major overhaul java is going to lose ground to better languages like C# and anything else that comes out.

Though it is nice that they are going to work on gaming. I was looking at the fullscreen stuff and it really could have been easier. Why not something like this:


Component display;
try{
display = new FullScreen();
}
catch(VideoModeException e)
{
//put code for non fullscreen solution
}

display.setSize(640,480);//this would set the resolution

Java is worse than languages that are not even in version one or even created yet, how wonderful. Way to flame anonymously.

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But isn''t C# just a Java rip off? MS said since we can''t have Java our way, let''s make our on Java-esque language. Look at the Language spec. Of course we aren''t going to get into the System requirements for C# apps.

well why wouldn''t it be better? It was made later so they had more time to see what works and what doesn''t. I''m not blaming Sun or anything, I just think it''s time that they got a fresh start. Also the whole java platform thing isn''t user friendly at all, if you try to run a program created with a more advanced version it should ask if you want to automatically update and do it for you.

I would agree with you on the Automatic Update thing, but name one language that tells you that you need to update your libraries, compiler or whatever. I know C/C++ doesn''t do it. VB tells you what VBRUN you need. But that''s one out of thousands of languages. So your point is rather mute. I''m sure C# will have it''s advantages. But getting people to use it is another story. And during the time it is actually implemented Java moves on. As has been said in other forums, never say a language is better than another.