There are so many unique games out there that are great to play but so many people are so close minded! Today I got Patapon for PSP and Professor Layton and the Curious Village for DS. Both are very well designed games and are a lot of fun to play. Before anyone even played the game all I heard was "Thats gay" "Thats stupid look at the graphics" "Its dumb cause its not like Crysis" This kind of attitude is frustrating because no wonder companies are afraid to try anything different with games. Games in my opinion were starting to get extremely stale before wii and ds came out. These two systems pretty much try anything and its successful! I wish other companies would jump on this bandwagon and bring back more variety. (Little big world for ps3 looks really intruiging....) Sorry thats my rant. No flames please as I warned it was a rant thread :)

People are stupid. This is widely known.

Most people are also more interested in the social standing of a game rather than any merits the game itself may have. If they're seen playing the game and it lowers their social standing in any way, they're not likely to play the game at all or insult those who do play it. Human beings are social animals, which really gets in the way of rational thought.

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Original post by Chrono1081 Before anyone even played the game all I heard was "Thats gay" "Thats stupid look at the graphics" "Its dumb cause its not like Crysis"

So spending hours upon hours in a fantasy world full of moronic A.I. driven leather wrapped beefcake wielding phallic weapons in a mission to create the suprime "money shot" is more to thier likeing!?!?!?

That usualy shuts them up right quick. ;)

Hey, I'm closed-minded about some things. Headsets, for instance. When someone talks about virtual reality and immersing yourself in the game experience via some gadget that fits around your ears and eyes, then I'm a bit put off. Taking away my natural senses of sight and hearing and opening me up to physical injury or theft isn't exactly a good way to sell me a game.

But that's not really what you're talking about. You're talking about some dufus who plays lots of shooters and calls things gay. Yes, the psychological disconnection that results in empty consumerism sure is fun, ain't it?

Just rename the thread to "People are idiots". 8D

How else can you explain that people in general are willing to hand over tens of millions of dollars to fund art like this.

[EDIT]I was going to point out that the phrase is "closed-minded" (i.e. a mind that is closed, not a mind that is close), but in the process I've discovered that "close-minded" is in fact valid as well!

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Original post by MSW So spending hours upon hours in a fantasy world full of moronic A.I. driven leather wrapped beefcake wielding phallic weapons in a mission to create the supreme "money shot" is more to their likening!?!?!? That usually shuts them up right quick. ;)

Or leads them to ask you what "phallic" means ;P

[Edited by - Hodgman on March 10, 2008 1:03:28 AM]

This seems more lounge-oriented, but whatever.

I agree that a lot of people set their tastes for social reasons rather than artistic or critical ones, but there's the "Indy Rock Pete" problem on the opposite side that you seem to be swinging dangerously close to. There are folks who, if Patapon were #1 on all the charts and Crysis had fallen by the wayside, would have made the same statement you just made, with a few juxtaposed words.

Popularity doesn't always indicate crappiness (COD4 is excellent, despite having a gameplay in perfect keeping with the current FPS trend and being the fourth iteration of a highly repetiive franchise). By the same token, not every obscure game is a diamond in the rough. I just checked out a few obscure games, in demo or freeware form, which had very innovative gameplay styles and features and graphical elements and were a blend of boring and frustrating. A lot of the games that are made or even imagined here on this forum suck, and would be unplayably lame, despite a humungous helping of outside-the-box thinking.

Yes, there are people who are not very knowledgable or experienced with regard to (video games/books/politics/movies/girls/cars/paintings/music), and those people swear allegiance to the faction that gains their loyalty through marketing, unrelated merits and past successes. There are those who know more than the average man, and make their own decisions based on empirical research and educated assumptions. There are also those who think they know it all, and derive pleasure from claiming to be in the second group and showering disparagement on the first.

Whatever.

I'm really out of the gaming loop and haven't played any of the games mentioned, but I think this is relevant:

I hate crocs. If I don't know you and I see you wearing crocs, my desire to be your friend is significantly diminished. If we're already friends, I will try to stop you. You can go on all day about how comfortable they are, how practical they are, but that will not change the fact that I hate crocs.


And, for the record, I hated crocs before it was cool. [razz][wink]

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Original post by Way Walker I hate crocs. If I don't know you and I see you wearing crocs, my desire to be your friend is significantly diminished. If we're already friends, I will try to stop you. You can go on all day about how comfortable they are, how practical they are, but that will not change the fact that I hate crocs.

Maddox on Crocs

If it were me, I would have just flipped off the first person that told me that my new pink bunny babysitting game was below-par because it wasn't manly enough. The best way to look lame while you're doing something like that is to actually care that you may look lame while doing it.

I guess it may be different in highschool. If you're in highschool, you should probably hide while playing those types of games. Once you're out of highschool, your social ladder will be reduced mostly to important people, and you can just flip them all off like I do.

I get that a lot. But what makes me even angrier is all the people who think they know everything about games when they aren't even gamers. Tried telling these kids at my school about Team Fortress 2 and all I got was...Halo 3 is way better! The graphics are way better!

That's the downfall of games being mainstream. Mom's calling them selves hardcore gamers, nowadays I can't even call myself a gamer. I of course know that I am but when I hear all those people calling themselves that it loses it's purpose.

But in the end, all of us are the real winners. We have the joy of playing games like Bioshock, which are amazing in ways a mediocre game like Halo 3 can't even comprehend. (Halo 3 = mediocre in my opinion) But if every non-gamer started to blurt out "The Cake is a Lie!", well, I think you can figure out what would happen.