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new here, full of questions: here's number 1!

Started by February 29, 2008 07:50 AM
37 comments, last by dirk1 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote: Original post by dirk1
im implying that my videocard HAS the needed circuitry

How would you know? There's a bit more involved than checking the memory requirements. In fact, the amount of memory on a card says very little about it capabilities. If you think the developers of CoD have made a mistake and you hardware does indeed have support all the requirements, you should contact them.
I imagine you'd do it via hacking the driver (a keyword to use.. possibly), other than that all I can do is loop you back to Google.
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Quote: Original post by dirk1
im implying that my videocard HAS the needed circuitry but the game code is specified to read from more advanced circuitry and a lot of code would be needed
to imply to the game that the circuits are able to comprehend and supply as needed

I'm not sure what you're saying here. The new game doesn't know how to do graphics with your old video card. It's not MacGuyver. It expects to have certain capabilities available to it. If it doesn't find those capabilities, it's not capable of sitting down with a cup of coffee and a copy of GPU Gems to figure out how to use old circuitry to do similar things.

Now, if you had the source code for CoD 4, I suppose you could conceivably rip out the guts of the renderer altogether, and rewrite it from scratch. If you do not have the source code for CoD 4, this is not a feasible proposition. In any case, there's absolutely nothing you could do to make CoD 4 run on your graphics card that would also make other modern video games run on your graphics card. Oh, except getting a new graphics card.
Quote: Original post by WanMaster
Quote: Original post by dirk1
im implying that my videocard HAS the needed circuitry

How would you know? There's a bit more involved than checking the memory requirements. In fact, the amount of memory on a card says very little about it capabilities. If you think the developers of CoD have made a mistake and you hardware does indeed have support all the requirements, you should contact them.


lol that isnt my point im not even talking about my card having sufficient memory
in the recent past i have been able to play some games that also questioned the compatibility with my system. and these games have been running good after tweaking.
im talking about oblivion for instance, which people with high end vid cards could not render fluidly without major tweaking, that my system after my tweaks ran very smoothly.

and "quote"
I'm not sure what you're saying here. The new game doesn't know how to do graphics with your old video card. It's not MacGuyver. It expects to have certain capabilities available to it. If it doesn't find those capabilities, it's not capable of sitting down with a cup of coffee and a copy of GPU Gems to figure out how to use old circuitry to do similar things.

lol very funny:)
anyway to continue what im saying is that the game does know how to do graphics with my card it just cant locate the right shader package and im not saying cod4 should be patched backwards to make older system users happy.
im trying to find out how i can work around shader package detection
Quote: Original post by dirk1
anyway to continue what im saying is that the game does know how to do graphics with my card it just cant locate the right shader package and im not saying cod4 should be patched backwards to make older system users happy.
im trying to find out how i can work around shader package detection

I'm confused. What do you think a "shader package" is?
Quote: Original post by dirk1
anyway to continue what im saying is that the game does know how to do graphics with my card it just cant locate the right shader package and im not saying cod4 should be patched backwards to make older system users happy.
im trying to find out how i can work around shader package detection

If you're lucky and the shaders, along with their hardware requirements, are stored externally from the game then you might be able to write fallback shader paths for your card.
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Quote: Original post by dirk1
anyway to continue what im saying is that the game does know how to do graphics with my card it just cant locate the right shader package and im not saying cod4 should be patched backwards to make older system users happy.

Well, if that is true, have you asked the developer/publisher about it? Is there a forum dedicated to the game where you could post? Because then it's more of a support question rather than a game development related question.

Quote: Original post by dmatter
Quote: Original post by dirk1
anyway to continue what im saying is that the game does know how to do graphics with my card it just cant locate the right shader package and im not saying cod4 should be patched backwards to make older system users happy.
im trying to find out how i can work around shader package detection

If you're lucky and the shaders, along with their hardware requirements, are stored externally from the game then you might be able to write fallback shader paths for your card.


that sounds interesting where could i find more on that? or would you elaborate on fallback shader path?
Quote: Original post by WanMaster
Quote: Original post by dirk1
anyway to continue what im saying is that the game does know how to do graphics with my card it just cant locate the right shader package and im not saying cod4 should be patched backwards to make older system users happy.

Well, if that is true, have you asked the developer/publisher about it? Is there a forum dedicated to the game where you could post? Because then it's more of a support question rather than a game development related question.


well you've got a point there but ive been reading a lot of forums and no feedback to be found except buy a new videocard from some users.
but i was guessing that i would come closer to the matter here since it probably will involve some recoding , and generally , except for the ini/ config tweaks there is not much talk on that:)
Quote: Original post by Sneftel
Quote: Original post by dirk1
anyway to continue what im saying is that the game does know how to do graphics with my card it just cant locate the right shader package and im not saying cod4 should be patched backwards to make older system users happy.
im trying to find out how i can work around shader package detection

I'm confused. What do you think a "shader package" is?


what do you think?
might be more usefull:)

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