I need a good tutorial for ANN's that use back-propagation. I found a really good one, but now it isn't available. It was from www.ieee... So anyone know a good tutorial, that shows all the mathematics step by step.

Please? Could a moderator perhaps move this to the AI forum?

I often seem to answer your questions using google.

What keywords have you used to search with?

http://www.psych.utoronto.ca/~reingold/courses/ai/nn.html
http://neuralnetworks.ai-depot.com/Tutorials.html

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Please? Could a moderator perhaps move this to the AI forum?

Aye

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I often seem to answer your questions using google.

What keywords have you used to search with?

http://www.psych.utoronto.ca/~reingold/courses/ai/nn.html
http://neuralnetworks.ai-depot.com/Tutorials.html

I have already seen the second site, which doesn't help, as much of it is perceptron, etc, not so much back propagation. The first site looks useful.

I used the keywords: Neural Network Back Propagation tutorials

look at the links at my website

I liked this one:
http://programmersheaven.com/zone22/cat168/14947.htm

Quote: Original post by Sagar_Indurkhya
I used the keywords: Neural Network Back Propagation tutorials

Well, that's the problem right there, no offense but you need to know how to use a search engine properly if you want relevant results.
Simply using "back propagation", for instance (that is, using the quotes so the two words are considered as one) will yield tons of relevant results. Try it :)

But since I am writing my thesis chapter on ANN right now, I might as well give you one link I found useful, and rather exhaustively explicit: the ANN FAQ
But honestly, from my research, I can tell you that your best bet is to go to your library and try to find a book on ANNs, you'll find much more than in any one article you could find on the web (I think the FAQ is the one exception in this respect).

Hope this helps you?

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Quote: Original post by Sagar_Indurkhya
I used the keywords: Neural Network Back Propagation tutorials

Well, that's the problem right there, no offense but you need to know how to use a search engine properly if you want relevant results.
Simply using "back propagation", for instance (that is, using the quotes so the two words are considered as one) will yield tons of relevant results. Try it :)

But since I am writing my thesis chapter on ANN right now, I might as well give you one link I found useful, and rather exhaustively explicit: the ANN FAQ
But honestly, from my research, I can tell you that your best bet is to go to your library and try to find a book on ANNs, you'll find much more than in any one article you could find on the web (I think the FAQ is the one exception in this respect).

Hope this helps you?

The only book my library has is "windows for dummies." I tried all those combination of keywords. That was a given. Unless you want me to write out every combination?

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Quote: Original post by ahw

Quote: Original post by Sagar_Indurkhya
I used the keywords: Neural Network Back Propagation tutorials

Well, that's the problem right there, no offense but you need to know how to use a search engine properly if you want relevant results.
Simply using "back propagation", for instance (that is, using the quotes so the two words are considered as one) will yield tons of relevant results. Try it :)

But since I am writing my thesis chapter on ANN right now, I might as well give you one link I found useful, and rather exhaustively explicit: the ANN FAQ
But honestly, from my research, I can tell you that your best bet is to go to your library and try to find a book on ANNs, you'll find much more than in any one article you could find on the web (I think the FAQ is the one exception in this respect).

Hope this helps you?

The only book my library has is "windows for dummies." I tried all those combination of keywords. That was a given. Unless you want me to write out every combination?

I believe that what was meant is that, since the respondents obviously found what you want quite easily, you should learn to use search engines more effectively. I just searched on Google for "back propagation" (including the quotes) and the first site that I clicked on had example code for a back propagating ANN.