Heheheheheh.... make files are an optional output whilst making VC++ projects - most people don''t click on that little check box. Also, MS uses a different make file (lo and behold!) than the rest of the world, and CW knows this.

Oh dang! If you don''t tell VC++ to gen the make files, then it won''t. How did that happen, gee....

Oh great one, please pass down your ignorant wisdom and say it is ok to illegally distribute binaries compiled with CW:DE. A simple piece of logic for you to try and follow: CW:DE is the full version of CW for $50. If you could buy a full version, non-inhibited, of CW for $50 as found in the CW:DE, who in their right mind would pay $350 for the full version?

I know not what ''VIM'' is, but if it is MS, chances are it probably won''t do what you want. Download perl 5.6. Compile it (unfortunately, I think it DOES come with MS .mak files so you should be able to compile it with CW). Just leave it sitting around for just such an occasion exists where you need to remove/replace ''^M'' and the like from a file. Heck, you can even use perl to automate stuff! Of course, if you had Visual Something, you can add a ''tool'' to the menu so that you can demicompile perl code from within the IDE.

It is nice to know that you can cross compile your buisness apps for Windows and MacOS using CW, or you can program in QuickTime.

No I don''t want to sell our products even if we later on create something really cool with OpenGL it always be free for anyone that has time & money to download it!

I''m NOT yet a PRO in coding and NOT interested in creating desktop application, instead I''m learning to create games with OpenGL with some of my friends in the Netherlands.

To be more specific: I do the graphics with 3DSMAX and want to learn the basics of programming in C just for fun of it! -> AND NOT WITH COMMERCIAL PURPOSES!

I do like to thank some of the members of this NG say to them that I''ve bought VC++ 6.0 PRO and books on HOWTO program in C/C++

/\/\\//\/\
MARCO VAN MANEN

quote: Heheheheheh.... make files are an optional output whilst making VC++ projects - most people don''t click on that little check box. Also, MS uses a different make file (lo and behold!) than the rest of the world, and CW knows this.

Oh dang! If you don''t tell VC++ to gen the make files, then it won''t. How did that happen, gee....

OK captain retard, let me try to explain what a Makefile is. A Makefile is just a file that tells your compiler where the targets are for linking. It''s used internally by VC++ so you cant always see the Makefile, if you dont have that selected. Even if VC++ had their own makefile, it would be trivial to import.

quote: Oh dang! If you don''t tell VC++ to gen the make files, then it won''t. How did that happen, gee....

You know, normally i have to convince people to act retarded...oh well.

quote: Oh great one, please pass down your ignorant wisdom and say it is ok to illegally distribute binaries compiled with CW:DE. A simple piece of logic for you to try and follow: CW:DE is the full version of CW for $50. If you could buy a full version, non-inhibited, of CW for $50 as found in the CW:DE, who in their right mind would pay $350 for the full version?

You could not be more incorrect...well actually you could, but you would have to try really hard.

The DP (Discovering Programming) edition is a Lite version of the Pro version. You can only target one platform with it, and the tools are not as robust as with the pro version. I still havnt read the EULA of the DP version, but as soon as i can find a copy, ill just make it blatantly obvious that you are an idiot again.

quote: I know not what ''VIM'' is, but if it is MS, chances are it probably won''t do what you want. Download perl 5.6. Compile it (unfortunately, I think it DOES come with MS .mak files so you should be able to compile it with CW). Just leave it sitting around for just such an occasion exists where you need to remove/replace ''^M'' and the like from a file. Heck, you can even use perl to automate stuff! Of course, if you had Visual Something, you can add a ''tool'' to the menu so that you can demicompile perl code from within the IDE.

VIM is VI (improved). Its a console application for linux that has syntax colouring and stuff, so most linux programmers (at least that i know) use it as their syntax editor. It displays full ascii, the ^M is resident in nearly all windows editors because the compiler needs it to distinguish the end of a line (if im not mistaken, i may be)

Whirlwind, im not going to reply anymore, because this is getting flame-ish. Just stop spreading your crap around, its not true, and you know (now) that its not true...Maybe you should read up on how a compiler works instead of playing porno games.

What crap, you said yourself that MS project files are propriatary and now you say you can port them? VC++ will not generate a make file unless you tell it to. No make file, no way CW can import it. The discovery version is a single platform version of the pro - it has the libraries to compile code for the Mac and windows - you just need to install the option.

You talk in circles and apparently read less than you write. If you would spend time reading my post as opposed to stepping all over yourself to not look so ignorant, you might actually make sense, which you don't.

VMI apparently needs more work, since as I said, almost every windows generated text file has a ^M at the end of the line so the OS can tell when it has reached an EOL. You apparently are too full of yourself to notice that I have already stated this. You are probably a worse case scenario of a self perceived expert - ignorant of anything.

metrowerks inappropriately labled their CodeWarrior Discovery Edition and hid the EULA until you were actually installing it. You can learn C/C++ with digital variaions of 7 books (2 on MACs), but not distribute what you make. The upgrade is $300. I won't buy the full version because of the afore mentioned deception.

Everything I said was true, you head is just lodged in your arse.

Edited by - Whirlwind on May 10, 2000 2:30:27 PM

lol

I said the makefile, youre really thick...a makefile is different from a project, a project is the way that VC++ visually organizes your deal.

quote:
VMI apparently needs more work, since as I said, almost every windows generated text file has a ^M at the end of the line so the OS can tell when it has reached an EOL. You apparently are too full of yourself to notice that I have already stated this. You are probably a worse case scenario of a self perceived expert - ignorant of anything.

heh heh heh
VIM is a linux TEXT EDITOR....TEXT. ^M is native to MS and only MS, thats all that i said captain stupid.

Ok, now please do me a favour. Carefully read over my posts, and then correct your last one, im tired of making you look stupid.

quote: metrowerks inappropriately labled their CodeWarrior Discovery Edition and hid the EULA until you were actually installing it. You can learn C/C++ with digital variaions of 7 books (2 on MACs), but not distribute what you make. The upgrade is $300. I won't buy the full version because of the afore mentioned deception.

OK, i havent read it, ill play devils advocate tho. Lets say that is true, "Discover Programming" hmmm, by the name of that title, any non-retard will be able to tell you. "Hey, this is just so i can LEARN how to program."

quote:
Everything I said was true, you head is just lodged in your arse.

If everything you said is true, then it is so ambiguous that it can be inferred as being 100% wrong. (give or take 2%)

And if my head is lodged in my arse, that leaves the question, where the hell is your head?

Please, please please please please, read what you are replying to before you reply, i wouldnt have to repeat myself so much then.
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Edited by - firahs on May 10, 2000 2:41:45 PM

quote: Original post by firahs

lol

I said the makefile, youre really thick...a makefile is different from a project, a project is the way that VC++ visually organizes your deal.

No, you are thick, VC++ doens''t create a make file if you don''t ask it to. It does everything internal to the program, if ignorance is bliss, you are one happy camper.

quote:
heh heh heh
VIM is a linux TEXT EDITOR....TEXT. ^M is native to MS and only MS, thats all that i said captain stupid.

Ok, now please do me a favour. Carefully read over my posts, and then correct your last one, im tired of making you look stupid.

I did. You said you were working on a VC++ project using VMI and had problems with ^M, and later claimed it was exclusive to the compiler. Yeah, uhuh...

quote: OK, i havent read it, ill play devils advocate tho. Lets say that is true, "Discover Programming" hmmm, by the name of that title, any non-retard will be able to tell you. "Hey, this is just so i can LEARN how to program."

A great mishap on my part, I was expecting the thing to live up to MS standards of what a learning edition was. Funny isn''t it, how you just keep repeating me over and over.

quote:
If everything you said is true, then it is so ambiguous that it can be inferred as being 100% wrong. (give or take 2%)

And if my head is lodged in my arse, that leaves the question, where the hell is your head?

Please, please please please please, read what you are replying to before you reply, i wouldnt have to repeat myself so much then.
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Edited by - firahs on May 10, 2000 2:41:45 PM

My head definitely not up your arse, of course, following your logic, it would have to be in order to talk to you.

BTW, since you quote me and repeat what I said so much, am I your hero?

Once again good for a laugh.

A genuine product of Microsoft enginuity.


LISTEN TO ME MORON: in order for a program to compile, the compiler needs to know when and where to link stuff...this is called a makefile...IT MAKES IT, YOU CANT SEE IT UNLESS YOU CHOOSE.


ITS VIM, NOT VMI...YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO REALIZE THAT I HAVE BEEN REPEATING MYSELF FOR THE LAST THREE POSTS AND YOU HAVE BEEN CONTRADICTING WITH FALSEHOODS EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Hopefully the quotes helped. I only quoted you as an aid to your dumb-ass, maybe it will be easier to follow, but it looks like i may have to go to crayons...crayola ok?

and where did i ever say VC++ project, i said a part of a project (which is not f-ing trademarked by MS) which was coded in VC++

If you are truly retarded tell me so i can be softer on you.

I am done, i will post no more, as you can see, and person with any common sense will see that
A) you are a moron
B) i wasted too much of my time dealing with you, child.

If you wish to go on and tell me that my head is in my ass, go on ahead, wanker.

Enough. I am sure the original poster is getting SO much out of these replies.