Hello, Does anyone know of any good resources that talk about Lisp, AI, and tieing it into gaming? Thanks, - Gage33

It sounds like you''re talking about this book:
"Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence Programming: Case
Studies in Common Lisp" by Peter Norvig



Kami no Itte ga ore ni zettai naru!

Can I download LISP anywhere? Is there a compiler or program I can get to create my own and run them?

http://abyssgames.cjb.net

XLISP is
a free Scheme (a dialet of Lisp) interpreter. Give it a try!

Also, GCC has a Lisp front-end, called GCL (Gnu Common Lisp).
You can use it with GCC to compile Lisp programs. Check
GNU web site for more details...


Kami no Itte ga ore ni zettai naru!

I've downloaded XLisp and it certainly looks interesting. Is there any documentation explaining how to use XLisp from a C program floating around the web?

[edited by - Diodor on September 15, 2002 1:16:46 PM]

quote: Original post by Gage33
Hello,

Does anyone know of any good resources that talk about Lisp, AI, and tieing it into gaming?

Thanks,

- Gage33

The references that others have provided really are quite good, Gage33, but jsut so you''re clear on this LISP is not widely used in the gaming industry. Most developers are using the standard C/C++, and a few are using Delphi or Visual Basic. After that, you''re more into the scripting languages to support scripting engines and the like.

I''m not saying nobody uses LISP (Abuse did for one) but just that it''s not many.




Ferretman

ferretman@gameai.com
www.gameai.com
From the High Mountains of Colorado

Didn''t Halo use LISP scripts? Some of that may stem from the fact that the guy who programmed the AI was (I think) originally an academian, but that does mean that at least one mainstream game used LISP.

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I support Ferretman''s statementsin that LISP is not generally (widely) used in commercial game software (AFAIK), however it is (/was) used extensively in academic research, particularly for symbolic systems. With the popularity of probabilistic approaches to AI, languages like C/C++ and Java are becoming more common in academic circles.

That''s not to say you shouldn''t learn LISP. There are a lot of fun things you can do ''easily'' in LISP that are more tedius to implement in C. There''s also tonnes of LISP code for AI algorithms floating around the web, so you''re sure to find snippets to help you learn AI.

Good luck to you!

Cheers,

Timkin

quote: Original post by Timkin
I support Ferretman's statementsin that LISP is not generally (widely) used in commercial game software (AFAIK), however it is (/was) used extensively in academic research, particularly for symbolic systems. With the popularity of probabilistic approaches to AI, languages like C/C++ and Java are becoming more common in academic circles.

Exactly right, Timkin...I said it "harder" than I meant to say it. And yes, HALO did use LISP scripts for its AI, at least according to the presentation by the developers at GDC. (That was areally neat presentation by the way...one of the last ones at the GDC and it was packed . Fascinating tools they developed, really fascinating.)




Ferretman

ferretman@gameai.com
www.gameai.com
From the High Mountains of Colorado



[edited by - Ferretman on September 20, 2002 8:08:33 PM]

Guile is also interesting. Except there doesn''t seem to be a lot of support for integrating it with MSVC. Oh well, I guess Lua will have to do the job.