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Is this integrable?

Started by May 23, 2002 01:18 PM
18 comments, last by Qoy 22 years, 8 months ago
That was my first thought...but try this formula on your result

(u/v)''=(u''v-v''u)/(v^2)

Ummm... seems to doesn''t work
I know that I don't know nothing... Operation Ivy
the u/v thing is when differentiating.

the differential of cos nx is -nsin nx, so the integral of
sin nx is (-cos nx)/n

(Where n is a constant)

I don''t have time to go into the laws of integration
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i have tried to integrate that function in mathcad and the result
had some fourier transorm shit in it and pi raised to some weird power, this is a very complex intergration
My TI-89 won''t even try to integrate that. Good luck.
mm... i thought this was simple. I''ll go over it again lter on paper - I cannot think properly without a ''scratchpad''

my notes in class look awful
ok, first off

the integral of sin(x^2) IS NOT (-cos(x^2))/(2x), you may be able to differentiate back to sin(x^2) but (-cos(x^2))/(2x) does not exist at 0 but the integral of sin(x^2) at 0 does. (check: expand sin(x^2) as a maclurin series and then integrate .. 0 does exist). Also if i remember correctly sin(x^2) does not have integral within the basic functions of calculus ... so you must expand it as a Taylor series then integrate ...

Second,

I would go with declspec suggestion and expand sin(x^2) as maclurin series then intergrate. Now it's up to you on how many terms you need, more terms = more accurate approximation of intergral of sin(x^2).

hope that helped.
jp.



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Mine was analytic. Not that mine was the only analytic one.

[edited by - LilBudyWizer on May 24, 2002 2:34:42 PM]
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Thanks guys, this has been informative. As it turns out my teacher is going to let me do the integral with a maclauren series expansion.. so that''ll make it nice and clean. And as it turns out for the required domain I only need like 4 terms of the series to be accurate enough.

Thanks!
Basically, if you find the integral of f(x), but when differentiating back to f(x) you cancel out an x term... that usually means you don''t have the proper integral in the first place. Cancelling out x terms is sometimes bad, especially since x/x is indeterminate when x = 0. Watch out!
As many people have said the integral 0a sin(x2) dx is an elementary function called the Fresnel sin function. These are evaluated numerically and look quite pretty when plotted.

For the specific case 0infinity sin(x2) dx you can actually evaluate it.

Make the change of variables u = x^2 and then use the formula sin(u) = 0.5*i(e-iu - eiu)

You then make two more changes of variables on the two integrands containing e-iu and eiu and you end up with this

0.5 * cos(PI/4) * 0infinityv-0.5e-v dv

The integral on the right is Gamma(0.5) = sqrt(PI) where Gamma is the generalised factorial function.

So the whole thing is 0.5 * sqrt(PI/2).

Don't know if this helps but it's kinda neat


[edited by - sQuid on May 28, 2002 11:33:47 PM]

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