thanks, I'll try that.

Just to give you guys an idea of what I've been through uptill now.

Back in '91 I was a kid in what Americans might cool Junior High (we call it Intermediate) I learned my first programming language but I don't consider it my first because it was obsolete then - I used an emulator of a bbc micro on my family computer, an acorn archimedes to run BASIC and I typed code for software and games from a book and tweaked some of the code as I learned what the different elements did. Then I wrote two games, never finished them. one was a pong game with creepy faces (which I designed in pixel code) for the balls.

fast forward to high school and I learned logic, which was completely useless because nobody ended up using it in anything except robots for a while.

then about 2009 I bought dreamweaver and learned to make websites but I didn't conquer html and css, built my first website. Then ended up getting a job at a school designed and programming their website. I converted a template, stripped it down and rebuilt it with a little bit of javascript. I didn't know javascript so then I started studying javascript. 100 pages into my first book - was a time when html5 was coming out and my dreamweaver skills were becoming obsolete. So it was either learn html, css, javascript, css3, html5, etc. or just learn a programming language.

2013 - I started learning C# via university by distance learning, it took me a while to get the concepts so I failed the course.

2014 - I tried learning C++ to make games. Found it really complicated.

2015 - I tried C# again this time with a tutor, went through 25 hrs with my tutor. then gave up.

2016 - found python. I feel like I've come home, but I've been designing games for 28 years (as an amateur) so having to code to make games is a relatively new thing for me.

Thanks for the advice, just thought it would make more sense if you know what my adventure/background was like.

also most of the time I've been doing other things - writing, dealing with life, illness and 6.5 years of successful college education.

so my time hasn't been completely wasted by not discovering python until now.