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As for weather or not windows 10 will improve PC gaming I dunno. On the one hand we have DirectX12 but on the other we have the introduction of Android and iOS apps being quickly ported to windows (They demod Candy Crush at Build) and they have said that they are planning on reimplementing all of Apples APIs in Windows. This is good news for iOS and Android developers but, bad news for PC gamers who expect a certain amount of quality from their gaming stores which may now end up being flooded with low quality iOS ports.

*looks over to Steam*

I'm... pretty sure that happened when Steam let people throw anything they want onto the service.

If anything, with MS letting people put Win32 apps on the Windows Store there might be more pressure on Steam to improve. If GabeN was scared of the Win8 store which didn't even support any of the games on Steam's platform he should be running for the hills with Windows 10.

As to adoption - I think making Win10 free will help, but you'll still have people that will insist a particular version of Windows is best, despite hard evidence to the contrary. Plus you'll always have those one or two badly-coded pieces of software or games that simply won't work on the latest and greatest.

So I think the pickup of 10 will be faster then 8, but I don't think people will be making 10-only games for a while. It's more likely they'll port their XB1/PS4 renderers to DX12 and have it as a choice between 11 and 12 instead.

Frob, do you think the fact that Windows 10 will be a free upgrade from 7 will make a difference?

That will certainly make a difference at the rate it gets adopted, but it will not be the determining factor.

Lots of operating systems are given away. Linux is given away. Hurd is given away. They could even pay people $100 cash if they take the OS, and it would not matter.

If statistics like Steam's surveys show that 30% or more of the potential customers are still using Windows 7, that more than anything will be the determining factor.

Some products, like Titanfall mentioned recently, are able to handle such a large percent because of other factors. Titanfall could point out that x86-64 is the target for both XB1 and PS4 and for the supermajority of PC users, and that really the 32-bit Windows players were one third of one quarter of their market, so it wasn't 30%, it was really about 6% of their potential market they were not supporting.

So reiterating and summarizing my earlier post: The key factor is the OS actually being adopted by the game's target market. Leaving behind a large segment of customers, even 15% or 20%, is very hard to justify from a business standpoint.

Sure, its not going to completely remove fragmentation overnight, not entirely, but I honestly believe its going to happen pretty quickly -- firstly, anyone happily (or unhappily) on Windows 8 or 8.1 are going to be happier on Windows 10. Having used 8 since before it was RTMed daily (and I'm not a naysayer), and what I've seen using the Win10 preview at work, Windows 10 is hands-down better -- its still rough in places given that its not quite 'done' yet, but its shaping up to be everything Windows 8 should have been.

Folks still holding onto Windows 7 are probably going to take more convincing, but but the argument is pretty compelling. For gamers especially, more than half have D3D12-capable hardware (and they project 2/3rds by this holiday), and all of that hardware will just get more capable for free if they upgrade to Windows 10. Of course, its not going to make old D3D11 games any better or faster, but it'll increase an install-base that's already worth targeting. Maybe a free upgrade on its own isn't compelling, but free + better new games is pretty attractive I think. And they don't have to win over developers with D3D12 -- those that are already making engines that support the game consoles are essentially already doing it. According to one of the //Build talks, adoption by actual game studios is at least as quick as D3D9 was, and they think even quicker.

According to the number of studios and single member registered to the DX12 EAP the interest seems to be really huge. However we are not in the WinG era any-more, we cannot expect to have 24 working titles in the holidays (and hopefully we will not see another Lion King disaster )

(and hopefully we will not see another Lion King disaster )

Ugh that site. When I discovered it, it seemed really interested, then it got clear than it was just a blog to stroke that dude's ego and Microsoft's dick, switching from one to the other in each paragraph.

(and hopefully we will not see another Lion King disaster )

Ugh that site. When I discovered it, it seemed really interested, then it got clear than it was just a blog to stroke that dude's ego and Microsoft's dick, switching from one to the other in each paragraph.

I know, but some stories are really interesting, I cannot find them elsewhere, plus it store some official documentations like the first manual of Direct3D.

Media Center is dead :\ http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-media-center-is-dead

My reaction -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5eT0nZUROQ8#t=45

Media Center is dead :\ http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-media-center-is-dead

My reaction -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5eT0nZUROQ8#t=45

This is not terribly surprising. Xbox One is basically the replacement, so there isn't much of a reason to continue development on a separate 10foot experience when their existing Win10 UI is already designed to provide a good experience.

Surely I will hit the update button but hey I'm mostly using Ubuntu anyway. I triple boot also osx86.

Media Center is dead :\ http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-media-center-is-dead

My reaction -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5eT0nZUROQ8#t=45

This is not terribly surprising. Xbox One is basically the replacement, so there isn't much of a reason to continue development on a separate 10foot experience when their existing Win10 UI is already designed to provide a good experience.

For Me, the XONE is not a replacement of a pice of software that enable my PC to what XONE + tv-tuner does. I'm not going to buy a console to replace a piece of software.

WMC was never updated in the last years, but I worked fine, it was simple and its tv-tuner and DVR capabilities were always better than any software I tried.

You might thing that DVR is not important any-more, there is netflix, there is the pay-tv... BUT, the entire world does not move around on netflix and pay-tv. In many countries netflix-like services are not available and pay-tv is not so common. You cannot abandon a software just because it is useless in USA or just because your stupid telemetry service told that. Microsoft should stop making decision only based on their telemetry solution.