I dont get why ppl still want to play on consoles..computers can play games, and do everything else..How can consoles still be on market, whats the appeal? to me is zero..but probably because in Brazil its ridiculous expensive with stupid abusive taxes, both on games and console..

Is it game titles exclusivity? cant be.. that would be a market forced down ppls troat, so what Im not getting?

Ravyne, on 23 May 2013 - 02:24, said:

Baffled, really? Home consoles today are being used for more hours to watch netflix and the like than they are for gaming.



Maybe this is an American thing. I don't see it here in the UK.

From all the friend updates on my XBOX I see it a lot in the UK.

The problem is that Microsoft are not and never have been in a position to sell those things to people. There's little indication that anybody apart from gamers really want a unified tv/music/game playing device in their living room, and the family market aren't going to go to Microsoft for such a thing.

Microsoft has already been selling this stuff (although not very well) since before the 360. Also the number of people using iTunes, Apple TVs, Roku boxes etc would indicate that there are lots of people wanting a unified device in their living room.

What makes you think the price will be magically lower than the existing methods?

It already is cheaper. Love Film (Amazon in the US) is only £4.99 and offers tons of box sets and movies. They have also started making their own content now too such as the Zombieland Spinoff. Blinkbox already offers the latest films and Box Sets (including Game of Thrones) cheaper than than Sky. Netflix again offers a bunch movies for a very low subscription too. Then there are all the other niche ad funded services such as Crackle. A subscription to all of these service plus a 12 month gold membership still costs me less for a whole year than a couple of months did for the Virgin package that I used to have.

My take on "One" is that they mean "one system to do it all." I'm going to disagree with you on "Infinity," because I think if you release a system with that name, it suggests there's nothing else you can release that will top it. I was hoping on "Gamma" myself, since it's the 3rd system and it sounds cool.

I was thinking that if they called this one X Box Infinity, the next one could be called X Box Aleph One

You aren't looking at the big picture. Gaming may be a multi billion dollar industry but compare wiith TV, Movies and Music it is insignificant. What Microsoft has done is use games as an entry way to totally disrupt the home entertainment buisness. Here in the UK we have three methods of watching TV Terrestrial, SKY (total monopoly on satalite), or Virgin (Complete monopoly on cabel). The XBOX One will allow me to watch almost all the content that all these providers have plus more for a fraction of the cost.

Currently with the XBOX 360 I only need a £4.99 per month Love Film subscription to watch all the best shows and a huge back catalog of movies. For anything newer I can watch all the latest releases on demand through Blinkbox. Sky or Virgin cost £50+ per month. All XBOX needs is some way of paying off the sports companies and showing Live sports and they will have completly disrupted the TV and Movie industry in the UK.

There are two separate things here - there's using a box to view Love Film etc, and there's MS launching their own service too, potentially with exclusives or live sports. Are MS planning to do the latter too? Or am I misunderstanding what you're referring to.

Even with just the former, I agree it's sensible for them to expand in this area. Whilst it's theoretically nothing new - online and "smart" TV services are becoming standard in TVs, with also loads of set-top streamer boxes to choose from, as well as online services from the likes of Sky and Virgin Media - consoles do seem to be a popular way for people to access these services. But actually moving into online TV themselves and bundling it with the consoles into a single payment plan would be a big thing.

A lot of the other entertainment features need to be very compelling for them to even be considered as a positive for Xbox One. The funny thing is, it really sounds like Microsoft is targeting this thing at an older generation that does things in antiquated ways. All of my friends, we simply don't watch live TV anymore. Not a single one of us. I've talked to many of them, and most have had the following response of Xbox One: "Cool... if this were 10 years ago." These TV features are simply irrelevant to us. Live TV flat out sucks for my generation. We don't accept it. Between Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, and flat out piracy, my friends get everything they want and have no desire for live TV to be a part of their lives.

I haven't watched live TV for over a year

The money I save goes on netflix + lovefilm

DVD releases and TV shows are on torrents

No adverts + No PVR glitches + best of terrestrial TV is free online anyway (iplayer etc.)

Still nobody has really solved the discovery problem though ...

So it seems that indie publishers can't self-publish on Xbox Live Arcade. They have to have publishing from Microsoft Game Studio or a third-party publisher.

I heard this crazy thing at Vintage Stock (it's very much like GameStop). The Xbox One will use the Kinect to see how many people are watching a movie (on say Netflix or Amazon). And if it's past a certain number, then The One will ask for you to pay an extra fee to allow more viewers (that are physically in the same place as you). Now I don't know how true it is. So I am for now calling this a rumor from an employee from an used games store.

I would call it 'batshit insane paranoia' personally...

On the other hand, we could have a scene where shoppers go out and here's what happens: the parents won't be sure if they really want this integrated device thing, while the hardcore gamer kid will almost certainly be against it. Who does that really leave? The casual gamer? Microsoft would really have to advertise their console, way more than Nintendo does.

No one has established that the hardcore gamer would in fact choose a PS4 over the Xbox One. It has already been established that there will likely be no graphical difference between the majority of games on these consoles, and even the exclusive titles the difference would be almost unnoticeable while playing. On the other hand, the Xbox has a much better controller, a significantly better infrastructure for multiplayer games, and a friend network that millions of people are already leveraging. I'd be interested in seeing just how much the PS4 "30% faster" GPU really matters.

So it seems that indie publishers can't self-publish on Xbox Live Arcade. They have to have publishing from Microsoft Game Studio or a third-party publisher.

I heard this crazy thing at Vintage Stock (it's very much like GameStop). The Xbox One will use the Kinect to see how many people are watching a movie (on say Netflix or Amazon). And if it's past a certain number, then The One will ask for you to pay an extra fee to allow more viewers (that are physically in the same place as you). Now I don't know how true it is. So I am for now calling this a rumor from an employee from an used games store.

i've heard of this rumor to. But i just don't see it happening, particularly if all i have to do to thwart it isput a bag over the sensor.