What is it about Windows 8 that would put you off Windows game development?

I suspect the answer will be the metro interface... which everyone seems to be very hung up on despite the fact that, for the average user (which no one on this site is) it'll probably be an improvement for them.

Apparently, Stormynature & naf456 justified it quite well. I appreciate their responses.

Did you read their responses? Naf's was pretty much as vague as yours, and Stormynature didn't really offer an opinions.

It's not like there's a shortage of things to dislike about windows. Coming up with a list shouldn't be that hard, and then we can have an actual discussion instead of a collective circle jerk of vagueness.

I suspect the answer will be the metro interface... which everyone seems to be very hung up on despite the fact that, for the average user (which no one on this site is) it'll probably be an improvement for them.[/quote]

Not solely. You're thinking like Microsoft at that; as if I'm just a whiner and don't like it because its so different. Try to tell me who the "average users" are, and even if any of them remotely like Windows 8 by any aspect. What do you know about Windows 8 anyway? I know that the entire user-land rests on a pile of scum, created by embarrassingly incompetent programmers and a horrible overall execution. I also know that, indeed, the Metro interface is ludicrous. I don't want to elaborate. If you actually make any observations for yourself, you probably could agree.

Darwin (not the OS) will do his job here. Those who evolve will survive, those who don't, won't , but will, in the meantime, rant on the forums about the fact that everything suck but they're good.[/quote]

Actually, I'm concerned for that reason exactly. Windows 8, of course, will largely affect Microsoft's success and a variety of software reliant on Windows. I have yet to see any sign of anyone on the Internet complementing Microsoft's failure (well, you can certainly try, if you hate my rant that much), or even just "summarizing" their experiences with it to describe "new features" without making any critical complaints. These are hardly small "disappointments." These people passionately hate it. Its not a minor failure, like Vista. This will be hard to recover from.

Did you read their responses? Naf's was pretty much as vague as yours, and Stormynature didn't really offer an opinions.[/quote]
Did I read their responses? Look at your own response. Actually, I think yours is rather vague and pointless. This topic has a rather damn good basis for discussion, besides these remarks about me "trolling." In all honesty. I'm not just bashing it out, but reasonably, I'm rather pleased with this topic's purpose, including the feedback and insight from Storynature, naf456, lawnjelly, kunos and mdwh.

I am sorry I have not comprehensively responded to you all, and all your thoughts which I wish to respond to. I can't do that now, but I'm trying.

Not solely. You're thinking like Microsoft at that; as if I'm just a whiner and don't like it because its so different. Try to tell me who the "average users" are, and even if any of them remotely like Windows 8 by any aspect. What do you know about Windows 8 anyway?

The 'average user' is not a programmer, they are not someone who has multiple monitors, they are not someone who has many many files open at once. They are the type of person who runs their web browser full screen or Word fullscreen they are basically more like my mum than me.

I know that the entire user-land rests on a pile of scum, created by embarrassingly incompetent programmers and a horrible overall execution. I also know that, indeed, the Metro interface is ludicrous. I don't want to elaborate. If you actually make any observations for yourself, you probably could agree.
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Really? You KNOW this? How do you KNOW this and more importantly if you know this why are you bothering to rant about it? I mean clearly if it is as broken as you KNOW then just leave and never look back.

Personally you come across as some kind of whiney kid who is so up themselves with their own view points that they can't consider someone else might well like something they don't.

Or a moron.

I can't decide which... maybe both.

Edit: OH.. I remember now.. you are the guy who started the 'Don't start yet another voxel project' thread... I KNEW I had a reason for thinking you were a self opinionated moron... glad to see my feelings were spot on then as they are now.

What do you know about Windows 8 anyway? I know that the entire user-land rests on a pile of scum, created by embarrassingly incompetent programmers and a horrible overall execution. I also know that, indeed, the Metro interface is ludicrous. I don't want to elaborate. If you actually make any observations for yourself, you probably could agree.

wow.. it is quite a miracle that Win8 feels so much faster than anything else out there when such a bunch of losers were working on it.. seriously, stop embarassing yourself.

Did you read their responses? Naf's was pretty much as vague as yours, and Stormynature didn't really offer an opinions.

Did I read their responses? Look at your own response. Actually, I think yours is rather vague and pointless.
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It's not like there's a shortage of things to dislike about windows. Coming up with a list shouldn't be that hard, and then we can have an actual discussion instead of a collective circle jerk of vagueness.

edit: If a list of multiple items is too much for you, we can start with a single specific thing you dislike and build from there as the discussion grows.

I really can't understand the rant about the Metro interface. Windows 8 is a dual system in that its Metro shell will be the default layout, but you can run any software that runs on Windows 7 (which is any software that runs on a 32/64-bit Windows system!) in regular desktop mode. Link.

Then there's the desktop. The changes here are evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but there's a lot of subtle enhancements and improvements to how information is presented and moved around the operating system.
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The only disparity between the two is visual and the fact that desktop users get to use both interchangeably.

If you want to go cross-platform without dealing with OS problems, develop for the web - you'll be wrestling with browser compatibility instead of driver issues, but you'll be happy to know that you'll be treading the future curve of the industry.

It's jarring how uninformed and decadent this rant looks. The question isn't even about "going with the times", it's about attacking Microsoft's solution for the mobile market on the desktop platform on the grounds of GUI decisions. You're the developer - at the end of the day what do you even care about the GUI of the OS your code runs on? Look at the market share and go for what feels right to you - if you want money, develop for MS, if you want to make make more money, also develop for Mac and if you want to satisfy a fringe contingent, develop for Linux. Funny as it is, you can actually do all three at the same time.

You're the developer - at the end of the day what do you even care ...[/quote]

Oh, I see. And you must be the one in a suit and coat with a monocle on your eye. Nice insight.

If this isn't going to be civil, then it isn't going to happen at all.

Clear?

If this isn't going to be civil, then it isn't going to happen at all.

Clear?[/quote]

Yes. Close it.