[quote name='way2lazy2care' timestamp='1321232504' post='4883597']
[quote name='Kaze' timestamp='1321137208' post='4883297']
[quote name='way2lazy2care' timestamp='1321133523' post='4883286']
Another good one:
Isn't that slightly undermined by the paychecks and tuition coming from by tax dollars.
If you want everyone to literally follow that example your basically advocating communism.
[/quote]
Eh. It's kind of valid when a bunch of recent college graduates are getting upset because they didn't get jobs the day the graduated are protesting the lack of jobs. In reality as a college graduate there's one employer that will instantly hire you, give you work experience, pay for your room and board, give you a fairly competitive salary, great benefits, great pension, and pay off your college loans. It's interesting how few people even see it as a viable option.
I say this somewhat ironically as I wouldn't have thought about it as an option either when I was post-graduation job hunting.
[/quote]
It's certainly valid. However, it's validity is degraded a bit when there are fewer job opportunities than there have been for the last couple of decades, jobs that are available have lower compensation than in the last couple of decades, current circumstances depress lifetime earning potential, and joining up with the military right now means signing up for likely serving in some wildly unpopular military actions, which a lot of those protesters also may have protested against (both the engagements at all, and also the way that they were run).
Things really are bleaker for recent graduates than they have been for their predecessors. The fact that the economy can operate as a de facto press gang to shunt people into the military, which is conveniently a black hole of government spending, doesn't really even that out. Plus the government could fund something other than the military to do the exact same thing.
[/quote]
There are enough jobs for most people, I think, but they are often mis-matched. Okay so there are some people that completely
went left field and expected to find something in what they went to school for quickly. But most people took more mainstream paths that are regarded as safe, and want
careers for their skills, not mere throwaway jobs that are not relevant to what they took education for.
I consider job matching to be a massive logistics problem that needs to be solved if we want our economy back on track. Employers in various cities say that there is a low supply of skilled workers, including in the programming industry. But what they really mean is it's more of a lack of skilled workers that want to work for the lower-than-average wages that they offer.
Someone told me about a story where a guy took a long hibernation and woke up in the distant future. He found out that the key to immortality has been discovered and no one dies of old age. But he discovered a large social problem behind all this. The younger generations have been complaining that they couldn't find work, because the increasingly growing older population have firmly seated themselves in the top positions and won't let go of them. A hyperbolic situation but it supports the idea that the 99% vs 1% problem is also generational.
Re: dpaek85 and government being the problem more than capitalism, this is true. But we should more evenly place blame on both parties, the government and the companies that choose to conspire with them.
Instead of being upset only at the chronic lobbyists, we should especially be upset of the fact that government is worth lobbying to. We can't get rid of lobbying completely.
If we tried to do that, corporations will switch to more overt methods of bribery, so long as members of government are willing to accept it. I refuse to believe it's impossible to fight corruption within the government.
