I think the biggest thing I want to ask, is that are Iframes a good way to go. Personally I love iframes, but I've created a site a few years ago, and displayed it on a different forum, and people said the site was good, but get ride of the iframes What are you guys opinions on iframes? and the way I use iframes according to the image below... I know I should be posting on a web design site, but I respect everyone's opinions here, and I've never ventured to other forums. as you can or hopefully able to see, the iframe is in center left, and takes up 1/3rd of screen round about... small work area, but it fits the way I want it..

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No, this is not good use of iframes.

The page layout itself is also somewhat useless, since it is about the size of poststamp on my and most people's screen (640 vs. 1920).

iFrames are a technical solution to embedding certain type of content. They are almost never a good solution for layout. Multiple scroll bars on web page are confusing. Ideally, the page should lay itself out so that it requires vertical scrolling, and nothing else.


Exceptions to this include special case layouts for iPhone/iPad, but those are even more hostile towards different scrolling behavior.

There are also certain guidelines with regard to layout. Navigation is expected to be on the top (which is correct), sections are on the left, content fills the center, and flows downward, scaling to whatever the remainder of the space there is. One needs to come up with a very strong reason and very good design to violate this paradigm. Content on left is counter-intuitive WRT common usability guidelines. It's similar to windows buttons vs. OSX buttons - each user has expectations on how they should behave.


At very absolute minimum, if you absolutely and definitely need limited size boxes, make it so they scroll only vertically. Personally, I detest pages that have embedded scrolling, since it breaks common motions, scroll button, focus, scrolling and similar.

Thanks for the reply... I agree with you, and I'll get ride of the iframes concept.. thank you

If you need to load dynamic content look into AJAX. There are libraries out there if you need them. For instance you can make your scrollable iframe region (if you did in fact want that design) just be a div with overflow properties set. Then when a user clicks on a link use AJAX and in the callback set the div's inner text property equal to some page. Kind of a simple design.

Maybe I'm just stuck in HTML 5/&#106avascript mode though.

Quote: Original post by Antheus
The page layout itself is also somewhat useless, since it is about the size of poststamp on my and most people's screen (640 vs. 1920).

I think Antheus is just being nice by the way. :P The design is very unorthodox.

[Edited by - Sirisian on May 19, 2010 3:27:33 PM]

thanks Sirisian

I have remade the site, using some of the idea's behind it. and it works like a normal site, and I like it much better

http://www.softlightimagery.limewebs.com/SLI/sliindex.html

Check out the link if your curious, and the only 2 pages with content are 3d Models, and Textures



I plan on making it a Game Graphics, Sound, and Music resource site... with my Long Novel called "Wars of Karaken"

I KNOW, with all my unskilled little heart that I'm not that great at art.. which is why for the past 10 years where I first started graphic design, I spent most of the time not doing it.. because i feel im not good enough.. I guess i've reached a point where I just say I enjoy it and this is what I want to do

Anyway, blah blah blah..
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thanks

Quote: Original post by soft Light Industry
I KNOW, with all my unskilled little heart that I'm not that great at art..

o_O When you look at your site it doesn't hit you as badly designed? "Games graphics and Art" gets cut in half by the line going through it. The buttons don't have a uniform margin. They're grouped by two, but it's not obvious why. It makes it look like they have a relationship with their adjacent buttons. The contrast in the black in the navigation menu is almost non-existent. The background tiles like it's 1995, and your header abruptly stops with the brown smudge. Lastly if you're trying to go for a grunge effect there's brushes for that, but I wouldn't recommend it.

In contrast look at Chai's website which I've always liked since it's minimalistic.
http://www.arielchai.com/

The Background Tiles like its 1995.. Could you have a Hit Song right there

Anyway, thanks for your hard to take feed back... this is why I only push in for a couple days or two, into my projects and give up... I SUCK

Oh well..