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Can I has more Stargate Universe pls?

Started by December 06, 2009 12:21 AM
34 comments, last by LessBread 14 years, 11 months ago
Quote: Original post by Talroth
Quote: Original post by RivieraKid
SGU contains many fresh elements which I have never seen before.


Which you feel are? It is a good and fairly unique show, but I can't honestly say I've noticed a single truly fresh and totally unique element that I haven't come across before.


Body swapping issues and moral implications, is it technically rape?

Episode 10 (faultless but dont want to go into it as its recent)

Ending of Time episode

Eli has two mentors - young and rush, both are flawed and he is unsure of who to trust. He is also a puppet to them. His development will be very interesting.

Watch closely, sometimes the camera switches to an roof airvent view, the camera moves in an awkward fassion as if something were watching them from the ceiling. A spaceship of unknown origin also departed from destiny at the end of episode 3.

So far none of the viewers can say for sure what Rush is all about however all of his actions conform to normal human behaviour. Baltar's entire character was based on him being a tad crazy, he had no agenda and you know that from the beginning.

The aliens will not be speaking english (but this hasnt come around yet). For scifi shows this is rare.

Real lesbian relationship which according to sources was refreshing in its execution.

Minor characters have real impact, purpose and good lines. They arnt your average red shirts.

Also:
The ship(set) has been built, like firefly.
Quote: Original post by LessBread
Quote: Original post by owl
I saw the first two hours of it (three times already). It's simply great.


The first two hours - do you mean the two hour pilot episode? With the flashbacks that tell how they arrived on the ship?

Friday's broadcast episode was flagged as season one finale, but that seems premature to me. SyFy channel tends to split seasons into two halves, so it must have been the finale to the first half of the season. My guess is that the second half will run in the middle of spring.

The season ends on a cliff hanger of sorts. I won't spoil it for you.


Yes I meant the first two episodes (I just realized they are 30-40 mins long each without the commercials). Here latin-sifi keeps repeating them over and over and I actually couldn't stand anymore not knowing what was going to happen and I ended up watching the 10 episodes on youtube and I certainly want to see more!

There really isn't much to spoil tough, things just happen and they are all more or less predictable. I guess what really makes it interesting (as with any good sci/fi story) is the development of the characters and the sciencefictional situations that gets presented.

I agree whit the opinion that it is different from the other Stargate series. I find this one somehow more drama-driven and a lot more photo-graphic than the other ones and I really think it sticks pretty well to the spirit of trying to be just as scientifically accurate (or at least subtle on the bulshittin') as the premise allows it to be.

Episode 10 (the last one, as far as I can tell) presents a situation that shouldn't be easy to solve, not practically neither morally. But I guess being it a soap it will probably be.

The jungle issue, the three characters going through the portal in chapter 3 and never coming back and the last situation on chapter 10 gotta be resolved (or at least well explained) in future episodes or I'll be really disappointed.
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Quote: Original post by owl

The jungle issue...


its in the kino diaries
diary
Quote: Original post by RivieraKid
Quote: Original post by Talroth
Quote: Original post by RivieraKid
SGU contains many fresh elements which I have never seen before.


Which you feel are? It is a good and fairly unique show, but I can't honestly say I've noticed a single truly fresh and totally unique element that I haven't come across before.


Body swapping issues and moral implications, is it technically rape?

Episode 10 (faultless but dont want to go into it as its recent)

Ending of Time episode

Eli has two mentors - young and rush, both are flawed and he is unsure of who to trust. He is also a puppet to them. His development will be very interesting.

Watch closely, sometimes the camera switches to an roof airvent view, the camera moves in an awkward fassion as if something were watching them from the ceiling. A spaceship of unknown origin also departed from destiny at the end of episode 3.

So far none of the viewers can say for sure what Rush is all about however all of his actions conform to normal human behaviour. Baltar's entire character was based on him being a tad crazy, he had no agenda and you know that from the beginning.

The aliens will not be speaking english (but this hasnt come around yet). For scifi shows this is rare.

Real lesbian relationship which according to sources was refreshing in its execution.

Minor characters have real impact, purpose and good lines. They arnt your average red shirts.

Also:
The ship(set) has been built, like firefly.


And where is the freshness? I see a show that make use of many elements drawn from literature and modern media, but I don't see anything that is truly new or novel.

Body swapping and moral issues? You do know that element is centuries old. I know it existed in the early Medieval period, and given the nature of the folklore stories it would not surprise me at all to see it turn up in ancient Greek or Roman sources (not literature I'm overly interested in, so I haven't explored it much.)

Flawed mentors, and opposing mentors. Two fairly common elements in literature that gives an easy build up to a moral problem for a character.

Unexplained third parties aren't new either. The "view from the unknown monster" is also a very common shot in horror movies. I'm fairly sure Star Trek did it several times, as did earlier Stargate episodes. Showing some mysterious element, and giving zero explanation about it, that the focus cast isn't aware of is a very common element in modern story telling. It builds suspense and forces viewers/readers to stop and think "ok, what the hell was that?" and then hooks them in to watch and find out.

Having characters that aren't well explained, are mysterious, etc, etc, isn't a new idea either. Ever seen Lost? Wasn't new then either.

Didn't most aliens in Star Wars not speak English? Not exactly a new idea, just one rarely used. Language barriers are also a common element in literature, but are often a very bad story telling element.

Didn't that Doctor Who spin off Torchwood from a few years ago have a strong same sex relationship and character relations? I never really watched more than one or two episodes, but I remember hearing it had high praise because of how far it pushed the same sex relationships.

Some of the best lines in Shakespeare are from the minor characters!
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Quote: Original post by RivieraKid
Watch closely, sometimes the camera switches to an roof airvent view, the camera moves in an awkward fassion as if something were watching them from the ceiling. A spaceship of unknown origin also departed from destiny at the end of episode 3.


I do believe that is the kino view.

Quote: Original post by Talroth
Quote: Original post by RivieraKid
Quote: Original post by Talroth
Quote: Original post by RivieraKid
SGU contains many fresh elements which I have never seen before.


Which you feel are? It is a good and fairly unique show, but I can't honestly say I've noticed a single truly fresh and totally unique element that I haven't come across before.


Body swapping issues and moral implications, is it technically rape?

Episode 10 (faultless but dont want to go into it as its recent)

Ending of Time episode

Eli has two mentors - young and rush, both are flawed and he is unsure of who to trust. He is also a puppet to them. His development will be very interesting.

Watch closely, sometimes the camera switches to an roof airvent view, the camera moves in an awkward fassion as if something were watching them from the ceiling. A spaceship of unknown origin also departed from destiny at the end of episode 3.

So far none of the viewers can say for sure what Rush is all about however all of his actions conform to normal human behaviour. Baltar's entire character was based on him being a tad crazy, he had no agenda and you know that from the beginning.

The aliens will not be speaking english (but this hasnt come around yet). For scifi shows this is rare.

Real lesbian relationship which according to sources was refreshing in its execution.

Minor characters have real impact, purpose and good lines. They arnt your average red shirts.

Also:
The ship(set) has been built, like firefly.


And where is the freshness? I see a show that make use of many elements drawn from literature and modern media, but I don't see anything that is truly new or novel.

Body swapping and moral issues? You do know that element is centuries old. I know it existed in the early Medieval period, and given the nature of the folklore stories it would not surprise me at all to see it turn up in ancient Greek or Roman sources (not literature I'm overly interested in, so I haven't explored it much.)

Flawed mentors, and opposing mentors. Two fairly common elements in literature that gives an easy build up to a moral problem for a character.

Unexplained third parties aren't new either. The "view from the unknown monster" is also a very common shot in horror movies. I'm fairly sure Star Trek did it several times, as did earlier Stargate episodes. Showing some mysterious element, and giving zero explanation about it, that the focus cast isn't aware of is a very common element in modern story telling. It builds suspense and forces viewers/readers to stop and think "ok, what the hell was that?" and then hooks them in to watch and find out.

Having characters that aren't well explained, are mysterious, etc, etc, isn't a new idea either. Ever seen Lost? Wasn't new then either.

Didn't most aliens in Star Wars not speak English? Not exactly a new idea, just one rarely used. Language barriers are also a common element in literature, but are often a very bad story telling element.

Didn't that Doctor Who spin off Torchwood from a few years ago have a strong same sex relationship and character relations? I never really watched more than one or two episodes, but I remember hearing it had high praise because of how far it pushed the same sex relationships.

Some of the best lines in Shakespeare are from the minor characters!


I agree with all of the above but if we take that POV then there is nothing new under the sun. I was referring more to general sci-fi tv programming which has a habit of repeating storylines and ideas.
Quote: Original post by Programmer One
I do believe that is the kino view.

It's not. The camera for about 3 seconds cuts to a ceiling vent on destiny for no apparent reason. I think its my imagination but I think I can hear breathing too :/
I can give you the exact time frames if you want.

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I just checked it again. There is definitely non-human, non-ship sounds. Its very slight, its barely worth putting it in but its there. Turn the volume up.
Quote: Original post by RivieraKid
I just checked it again. There is definitely non-human, non-ship sounds. Its very slight, its barely worth putting it in but its there. Turn the volume up.


Chapter? Minute?
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SGU's got me interested still. I miss the old Stargate but lets face it, there's only so much of that you can do. I hated when the ended but now I realize it's better off being able to revisit on DVD and have it still be awesome.

I'm not entirely sure if the dark BSG-like look is really doing it for the show and the franchise in general but hey, it's still halfway through the first season and because it's Stargate I'm willing to give it at least two seasons of dedication just on that merit alone before I decide whether I really like it or not.

Rush is my kinda character. He's about the only one who has some matter of control over his fate. Course he's the only one who wanted it too...

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