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Don't let the door hit you on your way out, Texas.

Started by April 16, 2009 11:56 AM
136 comments, last by LessBread 15 years, 6 months ago
Leaving aside the rep/dem split and the fact that it's texas we're talking about (which seems to colour the discussion), I'm generally in favour the right to secede. If there was a free and fair referendum in Texas and a strong majority (say 66%) wanted to become independent, why shouldn't they? Those who wished to remain part of the union should be allowed migrate to other states or at the very least keep their U.S. citizenship.

Next up, the republic of the South Island! [grin]
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Quote: Original post by ChaosEngine
Next up, the republic of the South Island! [grin]

Hey, you guys refused our generous offer to join the Commonwealth of Australia back when we were rounding up prospective states. There's no need to split yourselves up any more. [grin]
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I captured this off the latest presidential election:



The southern end of Texas votes not only largely democrat each election cycle, but their combined population easily outnumbers the state of Alaska. If Texas is to secede, I say we give these guys down there a voice of their own too...
Quote: Original post by vrok137
I captured this off the latest presidential election:



The southern end of Texas votes not only largely democrat each election cycle, but their combined population easily outnumbers the state of Alaska. If Texas is to secede, I say we give these guys down there a voice of their own too...


I didn't realize that that many illegal immigrants could vote
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Har har! Illusionary illegal voters! Quick -- let's wreck the DoJ again, Alberto!!

Red and blue maps by themselves don't provide much useful information, but they work really well for creating the impression that red dominates blue. What does the vote split look like relative to the population? I bet a lot of those red counties have populations under 10,000, some probably under 1,000 (yep).

The population of Alaska is less than 700,000. There are more Democrats in South Texas than that.
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Quote: Original post by Chris Reynolds
And quit it with all the Texas hate.. it's just stupid elitism. displaced anger. Texas isn't the bully that picked on you in high school.


Quote: Original post by Chris Reynolds
I didn't realize that that many illegal immigrants could vote


Quote: and quit it with all the [Texas] hate.

Quote: LOL I associate supporting the Democrats with illegal immigration as if it weren't a legitimate political viewpoint, and probably harbour the standard set of stereotypes about immigrants to boot.


R-r-r-remix.
Here's what "secessionism" looks like when it comes from the pot addled left in Northern California.

Humboldt County cities restrict military

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Now Arcata is at it again, with a law blocking the military from recruiting anybody in town under the age of 18. And this time, the law has the backing not of a few City Council activists, but of thousands of voters who went to the polls in November.

On the same day, voters in Eureka, a historically politically staid city a dozen miles away, surprised everybody by approving an identical measure.

"The idea that Humboldt County can fight the federal government is as ridiculous as hell, but goddamn it, we're gonna try," said Winfield "Win" Sample, a World War II veteran turned Orwell-quoting pacifist who brought Arcata's measure to Eureka.
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This time the federal government isn't shrugging. A court hearing is scheduled in Oakland on June 9 on the government's demand that the cities' laws be overturned for seeking powers constitutionally granted to the federal government.

Characteristically anti-war cities, including San Francisco and Berkeley, have tried to battle military recruitment. But nobody can recall a case where a city used the ballot box as a counter-recruitment tool, an act that has broader significance.

"It touches on a couple of core issues that really relate to the foundation of government," said Allen Weiner, a senior lecturer at Stanford Law School. "The questions of what areas belong to the federal government, and what areas belong to the state."
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"The fact that Eureka followed suit tells me it's more about independent thinking," said Laura Middlemiss, who was born and raised in Arcata, raised three kids there and felt that recruiters calling her kids at home went too far.

"The reason this measure passed in this region is that people don't want to be told what to do."
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No person who is employed by or an agent of the United States government shall, within the City of Arcata, in the execution of his or her job duties, recruit, initiate contact with for the purpose of recruiting, or promote the future enlistment of any person under the age of eighteen into any branch of the United States Armed Forces.

Nothing in this Ordinance shall prevent any person from voluntarily visiting a military recruitment office or specifically initiating a request to meet with a recruiter.

Nothing in this Ordinance shall prevent individuals who are not employed by or agents of the U.S. government from encouraging people under the age of eighteen to join the military.

Any military recruiter who violates this Ordinance, as well as his or her commanding officer, shall be held responsible for said violation. Both shall be deemed guilty of an infraction and shall be subject to the penalties stated in the Arcata Municipal Code.


"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes." - the Laughing Man
... Hold on, the military can recruit minors in the US? WTF?
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... Hold on, the military can recruit minors in the US? WTF?


I was recruited in high school before I was 18. They like to brainwash us before college/independent thinking.
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