Hi! I have been using lcc for a while now and i must say i like that compiler. One reason for that is that it generates the code for openeing a window and stuff. The major drawback is that it doesn''t support c++. (a minor drawback is that it is s little buggy) I also have MSVC++ laying in a drawer, and i wonder if that also can generate this code?!?! I mean it is not a problem to write this my self but i am lazy --spencer

Yup, MSVC++ can generate that code, and it''s really an industry standard. You''re at a disadvantage in today''s game development community if you don''t use it. Not to mention it''s a lot nicer than LCC (despite the fact that LCC is VERY nice for a freeware compiler.) So, I''d suggest dusting off your MSVC++ box and switching over to that

Sean:
Notice he didn''t say which version of MSVC he has It could be version 1.52 and that would be a real antique.

As for lcc-win32 being a little buggy, what bugs are you experiencing? Just send a report of the bug to Jacob and you''ll have it fixed in no time (at least, compared to other compilers).

I stopped using lcc-win32 because its support for DX... left a lot to be desired. You can''t use DInput, DSound, D3D but to name a few. DDraw works fine, however.

So i took out the MSdev cd and installed it ver 4.0

Now i have played a little with it, and i wonder if i can generate the code (see first question) without MFC??? i would like to use as little, prefferably none, MFC at all...

thank you!

--spencer

Good point, NuffSaid, you''re right, I kindof just assumed his copy was of a version that wasn''t ancient :_
I''m not sure about v4, but v6''ll generate non-MFC code, and I seem to remember when I had v5 it would too.

Hey,
I use DevC++ it is a good IDE for the MingW compiler, it works and looks at alot better than LCC, looks kind of like MSVC++ same type of interface. I was wondering will DX8 SDK work with it, I know OpenGL will.

I just wanted to say that I use dx8 with lcc and have no probs.

i''m using Lcc-win32 recently too, & i can say i''ve no problem with using DX7 (including DInput & DSound, but not DMusic & D3D...).

But 1 thing i wanna ask u zel, can u use D3DX/8 with Lcc ?? or just using DX8IM ??

I have no idea, it should be any problem but I haven''t tried since I''m not interested in D3DX, i code that myself.
The only problem I ever had was c_dfDIKeyboard when you set up dinput. The way I do it now is that I generate my own c_dfDIKeyboard data.

Okay, for those of you who say you can use DX with lcc-win32, tell me how you do it... please?

How do you over come that static data problem in DInput.lib? How do you overcome the C++ symbols in D3Dim.lib? I''ve tried to do that for ages and I haven''t succeeded.

As an aside....
Dev-C++ is a far cry from MSVC or even lcc-win32 for that matter. The debugging support is practically non-existent, the resource ''editor'' is somebody''s idea of a joke, and the help files are truly lacking in content and functionality. I think it really needs to be worked on before having a chance of being compared to the other IDEs. MingW rocks, however...