Hi guys, I'm presently re-writing a subject on game AI and I wanted to get your reactions to the following statement (so that I can gauge the types of responses I might get from students): The 'illusion of intelligence' is the perception of an appropriate change of behaviour of another entity, induced by an external cause. If you choose to respond, could include whether you agree or disagree with this statement and given your position, briefly why you think that way. What I'm specifically interested in is what you think this statement means and implies. Cheers, Timkin

It lacks something. First, I personally find the wording a bit off. But beyond that, I would say that
there is a level of intelligence you entirely miss with that statement. A change in behaviour does not have
to be in response to external stimuli to seem intelligent. This includes things like hunger, urge to mate,
need to sleep, urge to explore, ect. . And what is an appropriate change is subject to the perception of
this internal state. A fire elemental gives a different perception of needs than does a silicon-based alien.

Maybe something like:
The 'illusion of intelligence' is the perception of an outside viewer of the ability of an entity to
select an appropriate behaviour for itself in response to internal and external stimuli.
would capture that internalization that needs to be added?

I don't know if I see much value in the statement.

Even if the statement were solid, it would be a function of the intelligence.

In other words, the stated perception might occur when an intelligent behavior occured, but the stated perception would not imply intelligent behavior.

Also, inappropriate behavior could be percieved as intelligent just as often.

Quote: Original post by KulSeran
It lacks something. First, I personally find the wording a bit off. But beyond that, I would say that
there is a level of intelligence you entirely miss with that statement. A change in behaviour does not have
to be in response to external stimuli to seem intelligent. This includes things like hunger, urge to mate,
need to sleep, urge to explore, ect. . And what is an appropriate change is subject to the perception of
this internal state. A fire elemental gives a different perception of needs than does a silicon-based alien.

Maybe something like:
The 'illusion of intelligence' is the perception of an outside viewer of the ability of an entity to
select an appropriate behaviour for itself in response to internal and external stimuli.
would capture that internalization that needs to be added?

Hunger, exhaustion and other bodily needs would be considered to said intelligence.

Hunger, exhaustion and other bodily needs would be considered external to said intelligence.

Quote: Original post by Timkin

The 'illusion of intelligence' is the perception of an appropriate change of behaviour of another entity, induced by an external cause.

The wording seems a little too broad to me. If I were to kick a football, I would perceive a change in behaviour in the ball (stationary to moving) induce by an external cause (my foot), yet I would not think the ball had an appearance of intelligence.

I would define the illusion of intelligence to be more the perception of an appropriate choice of action or reaction of another entity. The wording is still a little clunky though, and there's the whole question of what appropriate is.

Yes, I'd have to agree that it should be an illusion of choice, not of change.

Quote: Original post by KulSeran
It lacks something. First, I personally find the wording a bit off. But beyond that, I would say that
there is a level of intelligence you entirely miss with that statement. A change in behaviour does not have
to be in response to external stimuli to seem intelligent. This includes things like hunger, urge to mate,
need to sleep, urge to explore, ect.

Are things like hunger, urge to mate,
need to sleep, urge to explore really considered intelligence? They seem more like instincts than actual intelligence. You don't just choose to eat or sleep, you have to eat and sleep to survive so there really isn't that much choice involved.

Quote: Original post by DigiDude

Quote: Original post by KulSeran
It lacks something. First, I personally find the wording a bit off. But beyond that, I would say that
there is a level of intelligence you entirely miss with that statement. A change in behaviour does not have
to be in response to external stimuli to seem intelligent. This includes things like hunger, urge to mate,
need to sleep, urge to explore, ect.

Are things like hunger, urge to mate,
need to sleep, urge to explore really considered intelligence? They seem more like instincts than actual intelligence. You don't just choose to eat or sleep, you have to eat and sleep to survive so there really isn't that much choice involved.

he was point out that not all forces are external.

Quote: Original post by Timkin


The 'illusion of intelligence' is the perception of an appropriate change of behaviour of another entity, induced by an external cause.


If you choose to respond, could include whether you agree or disagree with this statement and given your position, briefly why you think that way. What I'm specifically interested in is what you think this statement means and implies.

Cheers,

Timkin

The 'illusion of intelligence' is the perception of an appropriate change of behaviour of another live (or living) entity, triggered (or provoked) by their external environment.

I think this takes out the ambiguity and vagueness of cause and effect and actually dictates what entities are in this category of 'false intelligence'.