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Piano Piece

Started by October 18, 2005 03:18 AM
10 comments, last by jeffie7 19 years, 1 month ago
Piano.mp3[2.48mb] C&C Please!
BRING BACK THE BLACK (or at least something darker)
I like it

but do you have a clearer grand piano sample?
Anything Is Better Than Nothing...Solitarium Designs
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Wonderful. It reminds me of some of the music in Hayao Miyazaki films (composed by Joe Hisaishi), without being identical.

I think if used for the same purpose (film backing) it's ideal. If you wanted it as a more stand-alone piece, a very light string backing in some places may be appropriate, to add a little "more" in the frequencies above and below the piano.

After careful listening, I disagree very strongly with Solitarium's comment about the clarity of the piano. I think the current piano has a very suitable, gentle tone, appropriate for the music it is performing. It's not as bright as the majority of songs (particularly the pop-ish ones), but it really shouldn't be.

You also seem to have achieved very good velocity-response for the piano. I am curious, what sample are you using for it?
First off, I wrote it in Finale and then put it into Reason from the exported midi file. I did all the velocities in Reason by hand, and the samples that I am using come from the Reason Combinator "Five Meter Grand Piano". I have been very pleased with Reason, especially the samples it comes with off the shelf.

Thanks for the response!
BRING BACK THE BLACK (or at least something darker)
So you've used a built-in patch from Reason 3.0? It seems I really must upgrade, then.

And by-hand velocities - you've done a really good job there.
It's very pretty--you do realize it's impossible for a solo performer? During the middle section, you have the ostinato in the bass, a set of chords in the mid range, and the melody in the top--three hands! If you're intending this to be performed live at any point, you might have a look at it, and if you have any friends who are good players, maybe sit down with them and go over what they can and can't do--because for me as a musician, it's very distracting from the piece for me to realize that it would not be possible for a live player.

Otherwise, I like it quite a bit--the only suggestion I have is that rather than the somewhat indecisive I6/4 chord that comprises the last quarter of the ostinato, I would change it to a V chord, simply because it would give a better sense of direction--so change the pattern from A-F-A to A-E-A; alternately, you could use it as a really nice cadence, so your progression would go D-F-A, D-F-A, C-F-A, C-F-A, Bb-F-A, Bb-F-A, A-F-A, A-E-A. Play with that kind of suspension, I.E. hanging onto the I6/4 chord a little bit, going to a Vsus, and then finally landing on a delicious V--that kind of thing just makes me drool, because the more suspenseful the lead-up to the cadence, the more crunchy and satisfying it is when you get there.

That's my two cents! Very nice job.
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Quote: Blaise Douros
three hands!

Talented, isn't he? [grin]
Hehe… yeah, not for the average pianist! Although with a couple lines removed it does become possible to play, however this was not my intention when writing it.

I changed some small things in it, though in the process might have messed the balance up a little bit (especially in the bass) but the chord changes are working now. Nice and, er... 'crunchy' [grin] (I hope)

Same download as above.
BRING BACK THE BLACK (or at least something darker)
I've always liked toying with the idea of "edging in the incredible".

Like a really realistic rock drum line, and then, just a second, edging in what what obviously take an extra appendage, or a dedicated but bored extra helper.

Just for a WTF?

Hey, really nice piano piece. I too think the piano sample sound ok, and I personally am a great fan of using the computer to do what real musicians can't (otehrwise we'd just record real musicians all the time, right?).

One bit of feedback for you - it's a fairly expressive piece, but it's lacking any rhythmic rubato (playing with the tempo). I don't konw Reason at all, but is there any way of manipulating the tempo, like drawing lines to make it go slightly faster/slower? I use Cubase SX, and on this you can simply add points and the tempo will shift accordingly.

In fact, here's an example of what I mean. It too is a piano piece, and heavily quantised. But I played with the tempo track to get some rubato into it, make it feel more like a real pianist playing it.

Blue Sea

Good job! :)
Barry RyersonHead of Audio DevelopmentRyerson Sound SolutionsURL:http://www.ryerson-sound.com

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