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The perfect AI

Started by July 24, 2005 12:50 PM
32 comments, last by ACCU 19 years, 6 months ago
Post your thoughts about the perfect AI solution here. How it should be implemented ? I mean not necessarily game AI, i mean AI like a kind of human(or not) intelligence.
AI as software is meant to solve a problem. There's no "global" perfect AI, there's only AI that solves the given, and this is very dependant on the problem. Speed and accuracy can be parameters that might change how "perfect" a solution is (and I don't believe in perfection).

Please, you're already trolling flipcode.com, do you really need to troll here too?

Edit: Also, this is a game AI forum, please post questions concerning GAME AI. Don't post just to increase your posts count, there's the lounge for that...
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Well im not trolling here. I've noticed that some people dislike me because they keep clicking my rating down even though I dont post at all. :D

That's another interesting feature of human AI. Would real AI do the same ?

Ok.. game AI. But we could let live virtual people in a virtual world. That could be game, of course. It doesnt matter how its called.
But imagine. Virtual people live in your computer world. They born, build, love (?) and die.. And by the means of human interaction they get known that they are living in just a PC .. So, they create their own civilization and their civilization can share their knowledge. Or, they get the knowledge from outside world. Maybe they will invent another pc inside of their world... and they can create another AI ...
It is not impossible.
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It is not impossible.



Prove it.
Domine non secundum peccata nostra facias nobis
I just have a "brilliant" idea. We can know for sure if WE live inside a computer: let just build the biggest computer we can (it couldn't compute more than the "outside computer"). If we ever reach a top computing score, then let's kill someone (that will free some "outside computer" memory and processor time). Then, if the top computing score increse, we can be sure that we live inside a computer.

This idea would be pointless if:
- the "outside computer" have separate memory and processor for IA and physics (but, maybe IA emerge from the physics interactions...)
- our technology isn't enough for making the fastest computer the system can handle.
- the "outside computer" is running under DOS or another Microsoft S.O. (I don't wanna crash my Universe and be cursed to die watching the blue screen of death)

Well, I just had some laugh writting this... and yes, the guy who started this thread is really an idiot.

P.S: sorry about the spell and grammar errors.
can you show the exact reasons why i am idiot or it is because you just 'feel' it ?
Can you explain yourself ? Of course no. because u are what ?
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By the way your idea doesnt seem funny at all... i could make it much funnier.
I would say its primitive. Make a big computer and live inside. hahaha ! genius !
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hey ... ok maybe I am idiot. can you show the exact reasons why i am idiot or it is because you just 'feel' it ?
So, why I am idiot ? Im eager to know.


You're an idiot because it's blindingly obvious you know nothing of the matter at hand. Do some research instead of pulling big words out of your behind. Computer AI is by no means "intelligence" at all, since it just follows a set of pre-programmed routines. Whether human consciousness is the same is a matter for philosophers to discuss and doesn't belong here.

Also, perhaps you should concentrate on improving your English skills beyond that of a 10-year-old kid if you ever hope to be taken seriously.
"Computer AI is by no means "intelligence" at all, since it just follows a set of pre-programmed routines."

1) this is not truth. learn more about AI. It is not necessarily pre-programmed nowadays.
2) what exactly is intelligence ? Can it follow some routines and be intelligence ?

Like it or not we DO in fact live inside a giant computer. Not in a literall sense. More in a metophorical sense. If our universe didn't operate according to a set of logical rules then such a system would would be too unstable to support life. Each moment that passes is simply energy transfering into other forms (energy being computed into its next state) -> cause and effect. My mental image of the universe is similar to a huge dynamic state machine. Every thing we do leaves a lasting impression on the state of reality. So in a sense the universe does have memory of every single energy "computation" that has EVER happened because the current state of the system was derived from those past compuations!

Anyways.. This may not make sense to anyone else; some may even make a mockery of my views, as always I'm always up for a good philsophical discussion. But for all its worth you should try reading Goebel, Escher and Bach - An eternal golden braid. Very good book about the limits of logical systems.

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