Aren''t you getting bored of the same old story, Good vs Evil, Light vs Darkness ? Doesn''t anyone have any new ideas ? OK, I know some do, but what about the others ? What do you use ? I use Nature vs Disease, Progress/Evolution vs ''Stasis''. Come on, post ! Runemaster now working on Acronia : Secrets of Magic Add your site to my free-for-all links page ! """"" "''Nazrix is cool'' -- Nazrix" --Darkmage --Godfree"-Nazrix" -- runemaster --and now dwarfsoft" -- dwarfsoft --pouya" -- Nazrix" -- Nazrix "I feel that posts of this nature are a perversion of the internet."-johnnyfish

Good vs Evil with a twist... You are the evil, you thought you were the good guy. Slay your minions boy! Reminds me a bit of ''total recall'' . Anyway - I take it that you were refering to me in that broad encompassment of ''people who have other ideas''

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Of course I was refering to you.With one word :
GOBLIN

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good vs. evil makes my stomach hurt even more than pouya finding his scanner CD.


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I''ll try and make this brief...but this has been an issue i''ve been thinking about for a while...
I think the good/evil thing is well overdone and truly a false issue. As far as i can seem to understand...there really isn''t ''good'' and ''evil'' as understood today in simple terms. Over the millennia i believe the ideas of order and chaos transmuted somehow into good and evil. So instead of focusing on simply labling something good or evil, why not make the ''good'' in games more of a near-utopian society, and the ''evil'' more an unorganized horde?? Wouldn''t that make more sense?



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Again, the generalisation comes back to x vs y, where x = Good/Order and y = Evil/Chaos. How about, have no clearly defined good or evil, but make the player judge each character that they come across. In such a way, they can find out that their opinions of what is good and what is evil can be discoloured. This is all about breaking the players will and thought about currently held perceptions.

I always love using prejudice against the player . Makes for a more interesting game

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yep, dwarf agreed...

I think we can count 2 things definitely being in your game: some sort of reincarnation or life-after-death and using prejudice against the player.


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You forgot about goblins

I''m thinking in terms of an MMO game here, although singleplay might work.

How about religious affiliations and conflicts? Like in the days of old where whole nations would go on crusades against the blasphemous satanic other religions. You could quite easily create more than 2 religious affiliations, so wars could break out between all manner of nations without ever having to define a "good" or "evil."

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In GDT Underground (I''ll develop it someday), it''s a battle between 3 different factions... one led by Pouya, another one led by nes8bit, and one led by dwarfsoft. None of them is really good or evil, order or chaos (well, I take that back... they''re all 100% CHAOS ).

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